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parsfan
Re: ‘Some Men All Biscuit’ tribute show…
First of all – apologies, no video or even photos.
I don’t think I’ve ever been to see a tribute band before and I’m not really sure what my expectations were going into this, but a mate counted himself out last month as he didn’t fancy karaoke. I never expected anything as bad as that but there was a soundcheck of sorts while we were queuing and, through a couple of walls, the band sounded pretty ropey.
The venue is pretty small, about 100-110 seated, but it was full with a few more standing at the back. Maybe my memory is playing tricks on me, and exaggerating how small the crowd was, but I’m sure there was more here than at the Penzance gig in 2005.
The guy behind it all, and continuity announcer, was Alexis Dubus. I’m not 100% sure on the band but the guitarist seemed to go by the name of Silky and the drummer, ie a guy banging a box, was possibly called Gus (and supported the lads at one of the Edinburgh gigs a few years ago). They’d contacted Geoff about doing the show, got no reply so took that as approval.
A simple set up, Alexis did some chat and intros, someone got up and stumbled their way through a song, usually getting half the words wrong.
If all that makes it sound shit, that couldn’t be further from the truth. It certainly wasn’t a Biscuits gig but it was a great way to spend an hour, a really good laugh and refreshing to see see and hear so many folk get up on stage praising the band. I think most of the folk there knew them and the songs, most of the rest will be searching them out.
A few folk had pulled out, I’ve forgotten who, but no complaints as they were mostly replaced by Attila The Stockbroker who’d read about it in the programme and made sure he got involved. A random from the crowd volunteered for JDOG.
Lots of good stuff but the highlight was Lloyd Langford, possibly on his birthday, being called up from the crowd and being given the words to Breaking News. What a fabulous job he did too. The Commodores lines completely baffled him so he did it once, twice, three times, singing the last two. He still didn’t get it.
Paul McCaffrey – DPAK
James Cook – Bad Review
Steve ? – Len Ganley
Attila The Stockbroker – Lord Hereford’s Knob
Alexis Dubus – Surging Out Of Convalescence
Peter Buckley-Hill – Fred Titmus
Lloyd Langford – Breaking News
Attila The Stockbroker – Friday Night
Vincent/Rupert – JDOG
Alexis Dubus – spoken excerpt from Mileage Chart & Slipknot
17 August 2016
kennyp
I was at the Edinburgh “gig” this afternoon. Venue was like a sauna and the show was chaotic, shambolic and woefully out of tune most of the time……………………but it was brilliant fun.
The organiser, Alexis Dubus, was obviously a big fan of the band, and the guys who’d turned up made a great effort, even if most of them now know there’s no future career in music for them. However everyone had a great laugh, plenty cash was raised for Shelter and the singalong for the finale (Vatican Broadside) was as good as most proper gigs.
Hopefully they’ll do it again next year.
17 August 2016
dr desperate
Thanks very much for that, @PF/KP. Looks like a decent setlist (was it… no, I mustn’t).
Shame we won’t get to see it, but the legend will live on, long after other living legends have died.
(On a point of information, Lloyd Langford’s birthday is 6th August.)
18 August 2016
EXXO
Many thanks for the reports Paul & Kenny.
Have had a few distractions lately but will get back in touch with the rather more accomplished musicians of Half Arsed Half Biscuit about that proposed gig in Leeds.
18 August 2016
Chris The Siteowner
This just in from Alexis, the show’s organiser:
So…. it happened.
It was a lovely shambles but it happened.
After some last-minute dropouts (band included), we cobbled a show together and ended up getting 150+ people into the little Ballroom venue at Voodoo Rooms.
We had Scouse comic Silky on guitar and Gus Lymburn on a cajon board (Gus once supported HMHB at Liquid Rooms, apparently his band died horribly).
Set list was:
Paul McCaffrey – Dukla Prague
James Cook – Bad Review
Seymour Mace – Len Ganley Stance (bloke in the crowd got up afterwards and gave us a great stance)
Attila The Stockbroker (who turned up at the back) – an impromptu a capella Lord Hereford’s Knob
Me – Surging Out Of Convalescence
Peter Buckley Hill – Fuckin’ Ell It’s Fred Titmus
Lloyd Langford (a brilliant Welsh comic in the crowd who I recently converted to HMHB during our tour of New Zealand) – Breaking News (I got him up as I thought it would sound great in a Welsh accent. It did. He’d never heard the track and stumbled through it wonderfully)
Attila The Stockbroker – Friday Night
Vincent Lynch – a guy in the front row who I happened to know – got up to replace an act who was meant to be doing JDOG. Did admirably.
Finale: an unnecessarily florid and lengthy but hilarious intro from Silky into a rousing Vatican Broadside.
We raised £471.68 for Shelter and it was the most fun I’ve had all Fringe.
Never heard back from Geoff at Probe Plus, but a guy afterwards who knows him assured me he and the band knew about it and gave it their blessing. Suggested I give Geoff a bell today, which I will. A warm, generous crowd, and there have been many calls for a repeat next year. Probably won’t be taking my own shows up next year, but may well head there just to do this.
18 August 2016
Bobby SVARC
Teach em young, that’s what I say. We always have a quick sing of Vatican Broadside every Sunday before tea.
https://postimg.org/image/f4fjf9r89/
20 August 2016
warden hodges
The poor lad. It’s OK for us knackered middle-aged guys. ha.
20 August 2016
Bobby SVARC
“New” Album Out – 21st October
12 September 2016
Chris The Siteowner
“A gathering of hard-to-find tracks only previously available on long-deleted releases”
One for the CD completists! Come back here nearer the time and I’ll put a big pop-up or something like that on the site, so that you can order it from Probe Plus directly, rather than any tax-avoiding virtual megastore.
Here’s the reverse side of the CD.
And here’s the page for the CD, for further discussion…
12 September 2016
gipton teenager
I’m sure I hear Mark Steel on Wednesday night on Radio 4 mention something about a bloke throwing up and somebody saying ‘Leave that, it’ll win a Turner prize’ or something like that. I was driving at the time and concentrating on the road, like we’re supposed to, but that was the general gist.
16 September 2016
paul f
I caught that as well – rather by accident as I rarely listen to Radio 4 except for TMS.
16 September 2016
MISTER TUBBS
It looks as if Cold Feet actor Robert Bathurst is another fan of the band. In today’s television pull out in the Daily M**l, in the inside back page question and answer section, his reply to “The poem that touches your soul…” – “I love the lyrics to songs by the rock group Half Man Half Biscuit, especially 24 Hour Garage People. I put on their music loud when I’m feeling low – they’re so funny it cheers me up”
17 September 2016
dr desperate
In ‘My Perfect Weekend’ in The Daily T*l*gr*ph in 2011 he listed a few of his Favourite Things, including:
Sleeper trains in India
Garlic
A double bill of Christy Moore and Half Man Half Biscuit.
(I don’t think there ever has been a double bill of Christy Moore and Half Man Half Biscuit.)
17 September 2016
dr desperate
Although, blow me, when I come to check they did share a bill at Glastonbury (q v) in 1986.
http://www.ukrockfestivals.com/glasto-advert-1986.jpg
17 September 2016
Ted
Listening to the Times football podcast “The Game” this week and they introduced a football writer (Ollie Kay) and asked him if he owned an aga.
He did, though it’s not known whether he uses it.
21 September 2016
GIpton teenager
On page 35 of the Grauniad Giude on Saturday some DJ called Paul Wolford gives a nod to the boys and NSD in particular. It’s sandwiched between Miles Davis and Neil Diamond. Which is maybe a bit odd. I can’t do the link-ey thing
28 September 2016
dr desperate
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/sep/23/paul-woolford-favourite-tracks
28 September 2016
GIpton teenager
Yes that link-ey thing. Thanks Dr D
28 September 2016
Chris Smith
As a family we watch the daily American You-tube show Good Mythical Morning. A recent episode featured a game in which the object was to guess whether unlikely- sounding band names were real or made up. Our heroes were featured. There was also a degree of irony about the cover they chose to display when they revealed the truth. Here is a link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3xsO1lY8XY
Enjoy
29 September 2016
dr desperate
Excellent, @Chris, I enjoyed.
29 September 2016
rubber faced irritant
Half Dude, Half Cookie. That’s what I’m calling them from now on.
30 September 2016
rubber faced irritant
Half Dude, Half Cookie. That’s what I’m calling them from now on.
30 September 2016
Hendrix-tat
Good Stuff@Ctso.
Loved the You Tube clip.
30 September 2016
TOASTKID
Yeah, that was surprisingly funny actually. Didn’t take themselves too seriously, unlike many “Tubers” as I believe the kids call them nowadays.
3 October 2016
parsfan
The singer out of Slipknot…on QI, just started. I wonder…
4 November 2016
hendrix-tattoo
Watched a documentary earlier about the construction of the Grand Coulee dam and this picture was shown.
http://images.popmatters.com/news_art/w/woody-guthrie_2-620.jpg
5 November 2016
John Anderson
There’s an honourable mention for HMHB in this (not wildly enlightening) piece about the relationship between music and football:
http://tinyurl.com/hs3u2sf
15 November 2016
EXXO
It’s interesting that since the point when that article stops, over 20 years ago now, the orthodoxy of the relationship between music and football industries that was established around that time hasn’t really changed and it’s surely the Soccer AM Sofa which symbolises that orthodoxy more perfectly than anything. No half decent update of that article could avoid a mention of R&RIFOBW and of the fact that for HMHB and for half decent football fans of our generation, the relationship has not really changed.
15 November 2016
EXXO
I think, with the great benefits of hindsight, that what the author misses is the HUGE cultural (and therefore commercial) gap that was waiting to be filled in the eighties for those of us who, unlike the kind of effete music fans he represents, had always loved both football and music but who felt the lack of connection between the two almost painfully, above all in the early eighties when the scalls started wearing all that daft kiddyish sportswear shit and we were there in our DMs and trenchcoats to go to a helf-decent pub or gig afterwards.
15 November 2016
BOBBY SVARC
Stony T-Shirt OUT SOON
http://probe-plus.co.uk/index.php/news
17 November 2016
EXXO
Best – dare I say “most iconic” ( of course you do – ed.) – HMHB t-shirt since the motorway sign.
17 November 2016
BOBBY SVARC
Just heard from Geoff, T-Shirts are one sale tomorrow night. Why Aye.
17 November 2016
BOBBY SVARC
There’s no e.
17 November 2016
EXXO
@Svarco further to comment #942 in the old media thread
Been a good couple of days for my father & son team-mates, beating the world #7 and the world #3 (slight NB10 lookalike) respectively.
Won a few quid on both too.
27 November 2016
Bobby svarc
Very good, I watched the boy Trump lose. Can’t be doing with Robertson. BTW 20/1 is still available for the drop.
27 November 2016
BOBBY SVARC
@Exxo: Old Father Lines got beat today.
28 November 2016
EXXO
That our Carrie Anne getting ‘King of Hi Viz’ on the wireless just now? Good work.
8 December 2016
CARRIE ANNE
Thank you @Exxo, I am the guilty party.
8 December 2016
GOK WAN ACOLYTE
Simon Mayo just had a phone in caller from Chatteris. His immediate response to her location was to quote in full the first verse of FWIC – caller had never heard it and so he promised/threatened to recite the other verses after her requested record. Unfortunately my car journey ended so I can’t say whether he did or not.
(I like to think that someone someday will phone in on his “all-request Friday” for an HMHB song, but I’ve never yet heard anyone)
21 December 2016
hendrix-tattoo
@GWA, I think Simon Mayo is a fan of HMHB because he has mentioned the band a few times in the past.
Not a fan of radio 2, However my works van radio would only transmit this station so I had no choice but to listen.
Don’t have this problem now, Due to a HMHB compilation C.D being stuck because it won’ t eject.
The songs are from a Roger Green review from the Cardiff Tramshed setlist and that’s all I can play.
21 December 2016
John Stevens
I did get through last year on “all request Friday” but they wouldn’t play Chatteris. If it was covered by ELO or Queen, it might have half a chance.
21 December 2016
Chris The Siteowner
The likeable Mr Mayo has been reciting his party piece for years, and indeed it was the subject of the very first comment in this section of the site over 8 years ago. I haven’t heard a lot from him to suggest that his knowledge of the band extends too much further though.
21 December 2016
parsfan
I got it played on Radio Scotland’s themed request show, Get It On, a couple of years ago, but probably only because Vic Galloway was doing it that day not the normal guy.
Had a few mentions over the years, they seemed to like the idea of Nove On The Sly, but not enough to play it.
22 December 2016
Chris The Siteowner
I’d been meaning to post this one for a while. It’s in the collection of John Peel’s writings, The Olivetti Chronicles. I’m guessing it was one of the most significant early mentions of the band in the national press.
Half Man Half Biscuit
Observer, 26 January 1986
‘ME MAM DIDN’T KNOW I was in a band until month ago,’ said Nigel Blackwell, rhythm guitarist and singer with Merseyside’s Half Man Half Biscuit, teen sensations that are, as we disc-jockeys yell, sweeping the nation.
The band had walked to the pub from Bristol’s Tropic Club past a queue which ran down the stairs, out of the door, up the street and around the corner. ‘I should be queuing with them,’ mused Nigel, faintly embarrassed by this palpable evidence of demi-Biscuitmania.
In the pub, poet turning singer Jeggsy Dodd shuffled paper, selecting a set suitable to the time and the place. His best material includes a piece called ‘Wine Bar Man’, firmly nailing the brutes with the Dickie Davies haircuts and shirts ‘open to the knees’, and some musings on Manchester United manager Ron Atkinson.
Half Man Half Biscuit’s opening shot was the unequivocal ‘It’s Fred Titmus’, reflections on the feelings engendered by coming face-to-face with celebrities in the supermarket, and a track from the LP Back in the DHSS. The eager consumers bellowed the title each time it occurred and some foolhardy spirits at the front slam-danced beneath the perplexed gaze of two bouncers.
‘Jesus Christ, come on down!’ roared Nigel, introducing ‘99% of Gargoyles Look Like Bob Todd’. Half Man Half Biscuit’s cultural references are spot on, characters drawn from your least favourite television programmes, settings from children’s television’s Trumpton and Chigley.
Their lyrics are the first genuinely and consistently funny pop lyrics since Viv Stanshall wrote for the Bonzo Dog Band, and they are set to unexpectedly memorable tunes, the whole rendered in a manner more appropriate to rehearsal than to performance. Somehow this is as it should be.
At the Tropic Club, most of the songs came from the LP or from a session recorded for Radio 1. The latter yielded forth the superb ‘Trumpton Riots’ and ‘All I Want For Christmas Is a Dukla Prague Away Kit’. There were newer songs, too, presumably titles from the impending EP, including an excruciatingly tasteless song about the late Hattie Jacques.
The set ended with the rowdy ‘I Hate Nerys Hughes’, and the band shuffled awkwardly offstage. A minute later they shuffled awkwardly back again as a section of the crowd chanted, somewhat enigmatically, ‘Keith Chegwin, Keith Chegwin,’ to perform ‘The Trail Of The Lonesome Pine’, a title best known in its version by Laurel and Hardy.
It would be difficult to predict the future for Half Man Half Biscuit, for in success could lie the seeds of their own destruction. Perhaps it is enough, as Nigel seemed to think, that they have recorded ‘Back In The DHSS’. In Bristol they were a tonic, giving me my best night out in years. You must see them.
23 December 2016
CHARLES EXFORD
Nice one CtSO.
Neil used to get that ‘Keith Chegwin’ chant everywhere.
I suppose ‘cos Peel would have worked with Chegwin a lot he would be less likely to see a ‘celebrity lookalike’.
23 December 2016
CHARLES EXFORD
By the way may I just congratulate you on not giving the ‘HBHB on the Chain‘ feature a comments facility. If it had one, I’d be there every day moaning about how hard it is to get HMHB on that show, despite the fact that any record in the world, anywhere, ever, always has several possible HMHB links.
Today will be the umpteenth time I’ve tried to get ‘Depressed Beyond Tablets’ on. William Bloke to William Blake kind of thing.
If only more editors would remove the comments facilities from their features it would stop certain people monopolising the internet with their irritating rants and rambling reminiscences.
Yours,
Charles Exford Esq,
Hughes Lane,
Oxton.
23 December 2016
hendrix-tattoo
Can’t believe it’s been 30 years since that John Peel review. Thanks@CtSO.
How he describes what a tonic they were when he first saw them.
Comparing NB to Viv Stanshall of Bonzo for genuinely consistently funny pop lyrics, and also the mention of the foolhardy spirits of the mosh to the perplexed gaze of two bouncers.
And the quote ‘for in success could lie the seeds of their own destruction’
Excellent stuff.
I would also like to hear’ Wine Bar Man’ by Jeggsy Dodd@Exxo’s posted you-tube clip has given me the taste to hear more of the fella, maybe @Charles could tell me what album WBM is on and then I can buy it from Geoff.
I first seen HMHB in 87′ after my mate got some tickets free from his college and I went along with him at one of the Salford Uni’s. Can’t remember much, both of us was drunk.
30 years of foolhardy spirits….
24 December 2016
Bobby svarc
You can get the CD ‘The Probe Plus Years’ by Jegsy Dodd from Geoff, I bet he’s a few in stock still.
Visit http://www.probe-plus.co.uk. it will blow your mind
24 December 2016
Bobby svarc
‘The Probe Plus Stuff’ and not years
24 December 2016
hendrix-tattoo
Thanks@Bobby….
24 December 2016
CHARLES EXFORD
So anyway @myself (comment #46 above, and another one ages ago when CtSO first mentioned The Chain on here and I postulated that they weren’t too favourable to HMHB)…
I had loads of time on me hands in December and did try to get HMHB on the chain 2-3 times a day for a month, to no avail.
As soon as I give up and try another of my favourite lyricists, yesterday, lo and behld, I get on the bloody wireless:
1.11.40 (ish) into yesterday’s show it was:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08651b1#play
So while I was waiting I said to the producer “do you get too many HMHB suggestions, or worry that there’s going to be swearing, or something?”
And he said “Possibly, but it’s not normally me that chooses them.”
4 January 2017
paul f
The band have been featured 7 times on the Chain which is quite impressive when you compare it with some more mainstream acts (eg Elton John with 5, Status Quo with 6, George Harrison with 7). I guess the difference is that HMHB’s lyrics lend themselves to connections which makes us think every connection should be HMHB. The one time I tried, I didn’t even get a mention when the song was chosen, because so many people had responded to the rather obvious Junior Kickstart connection. I suspect that a concerted campaign like yours would always be in danger of backfiring though.
4 January 2017
paul f
I did however once get on to suggest the Chemical Brothers “Hey Boy, Hey Girl” as a link from Run DMC’s “You be Illin'”.
4 January 2017
CHARLES EXFORD
Well I shall desist entirely now that the dreaded word ‘campaign’ has been used. An average of less than once a year on The Chain however is not enough for Our Lads though more than enough for most of the other acts you mention.
Interestingly the last HMHB record they played, not on the Chain, on their last festive show before Xmas was described as the “inordinately popular” ‘All I Want for Xmas’, so they’d had a lot of requests for it but seemed almost reluctant to play it.
4 January 2017
Paul f
“Inordinate”?! The cheeky beggars.
4 January 2017
CARRIE ANNE
That is interesting stuff @CharlesExford, I’m beginning to suspect there has been an internal memo circulating 6 Music, warning the presenters about requests for our beloved band’s songs.
Last week, Nemone, whilst sitting in for the unlistenable Keaveny, read out my earworm suggestion of Everything’s AOR, and then asked “What is it with HMHB? Yet another HMHB earworm!”. And this morning, Chris Hawkins stated that our heroes are probably the most requested band on the station. If they are now blacklisted, then I’m afraid I’m partly to blame. Last year he played two of my 5.15 requests, Restless Legs and the aforementioned EAOR, but I’ve asked for numerous others. Sorry.
5 January 2017
dr desperate
The Irish HMHB tribute band Half Arsed Half Biscuit are at it again, playing a gig at Fred Zeppelin’s in Cork on 11.2.17. Tickets on sale here. https://halfarsedhalfbiscuit.wordpress.com/
Perhaps we could get some video this time?
5 January 2017
EXXO
@John: been assuming I won’t be able to get to Cork due to (a) skintness and/or (b) maybe work overseas. As the time approaches (a) is ever more assured but (b) hasn’t happened yet. I do notice there’s a flight back early enough on the Sunday to make not having to pay for a bed over there a realistic possibility. I’d say 30% chance of me being there. If I am, I’ll take a video cam and maybe negotiations to bring HAHB to these shores can begin.
Anyway, I notice that Niall needs to sell a certain number of tickets in advance to make the gig viable – maybe we could contact Niall and say if they publish a vid we’ll all chip in a Euro?
6 January 2017
EXXO
Just listening again to the Hitchers’ excellent 1997 Peel session and reading their Wikipedia page, I notice that sleeve notes for one of Niall’s releases refer to a probably imaginary LP called ‘Javier Clemente is Pulling Off his Captain’ (just in case anybody doubted this fella had the right vibe for a HMHB tribute).
6 January 2017
Chris The Siteowner
They should crowdfund a video, I’m sure we could get the requisite backing between here and the Facebook group, even if the results were made available for free whether you supported it or not.
6 January 2017
zedsquared
The last record on The Chain was “The heretic Anthem” by Slipknot … there’s an obvious shoe-in (shoo-in?) if only swearing were allowed on the BBC.
6 January 2017
paul f
Incidentally – has nobody mentioned yet the connection that every single Chain “link” has to the boys? Gordon Burns (qv) saying “The Chain” before each one.
6 January 2017
Irish Niall
Hi to all and thanks to Chris for stopping by the wordpress –which I’m hopeless with by the way. I approved your comment Chris and I’m still not sure it’s showing. I’ve a bit of formatting and practice to do.
HAHB will endeavour to video and post at least some of the Cork show. It’s a long set so it’d chew up the GBs on my cameras SD card pretty quickly –even at basic quality. But we’ll do our best.
The crowdfund is an interesting idea. I might go with a more modest ‘donate’ button for now. Maybe we could aspire to TBAs greatness and take requests in exchange.
Thanks also for the kind words re my old unit The Hitchers. Our first UK release was 20 years ago yesterday which is horribly sobering.
One George Hamilton who does the live commentary on Irelands international games gets the credit for the Javier Clemente quip. Proving you can’t make up the best ones and also that it aint just his co-commentator Beglin who needs bricking up George blurted that out one night in Seville where the Spanish captain Butragueno was having a nightmare trying to cope with the attentions of the Irish midfield (chief malefactors amongst whom being a 21 year old Roy Keane and a uncharacteristically fleet-footed Andy Townsend). The board went up, George gasped a gasp and exclaimed. Actually I think he prefaced it with words to the effect of “I can’t believe what I’m seeing here …he’s pulling him off!” (must’ve made for an eyebrow raising radio simulcast). He then started to repeat the statement as if to demonstrate that it was exactly how he’d intended to phrase it in the first place.
George has a fansite Danger Here dedicated to this and other gaffs. He also has a bloody good show on LyricFM (our BBC3 basically) called Hamilton Scores where he plays some canny classical peppered with ‘one time in Vienna…’ anecdotes etc. Well worth checking out.
8 January 2017
Chris The Siteowner
Post the link to the donate button and let everyone know! Maybe we could finance a bigger SD card? And the cost of a flight to Cork was being discussed at Coventry on Friday night, in all seriousness, I can confirm.
8 January 2017
Irish Niall
Will do. If anyone does decide to travel Cork is a great town for a night out. It’s a while back but I went to college there. Some handy cheap accomodation to be had as well.
If Cork proves too soon after Christmas -we hope to play Limerick before the summer. Cheaper accomodation again, great town to go out in, shannon airport has decent connections to Gatwick/Stanstead/Manchester. Ye can crash in mine for that matter!
8 January 2017
dr desperate
Discussing the possibility of a trip to Cork to see HAHB with m’ladyfriend:
She: Are they Irish?
Me: Well, he’s called Niall Quinn.
She: Not Lilac Harry?
My work here is done.
10 January 2017
Irish Niall
I don’t look much like my namesake* I’m afraid -nor Jap Staam either. I was compared to Steve Stone once which I felt was harsh …Lars Ulrich is another one that popped up -though they may have been merely taking the piss out of my drumming ability.
Anyway, I’ve been scared off a ‘Donate’ button by horror stories of Paypal freezing and seizing funds paid to accounts that had such buttons but weren’t registered charities. Seemingly in the very least I’d have to ‘upgrade’ my account to be able to access anything raised. Anyone else here with knowledge or experience of such things do please advise. It’s odd because you do sometimes see them on blogs.
SO -what we did instead is set up a similar thing on the bands Bandcamp page -which ironically offers paypal as a payment option. https://themetuneboy.bandcamp.com/merch/put-petrol-in-the-van
*I was on a flight with my namesake last year -think it was after the Holmfirth gig. He was asleep in his seat about 6 rows back accross the aisle. I know this because at 6’5″ most of his head is above headrest level. I found myself near overwhelmed by an urge to remove a shoe and skull him with it. Urges under control I spent the rest of the flight giggling to myself at the idea of a furious 6’5″ NQ storming up and down the aisle demanding to know what f*&^%$ hit him with a shoe.
Indeed, I instead approached him in arrivals and thanked him for the skinful of free pints I got in Limericks sadly defunct Buddies bar following his equaliser against Holland in 1990. He was a gent and correctly assessed I’d have been somewhat underage.
Ticket options updated https://halfarsedhalfbiscuit.wordpress.com/
11 January 2017
EXXO
Hi Niall,
I’m (another) Nigel who posts as Charles ‘Exxo’ Exford on here. The names ‘Nigel’ and ‘Neil’ both originate from ‘Niall’ don’t they, so there you go.
It was me last summer who, after some of us were frustrated that we couldn’t get to Limerick or get any video of that gig, said we should invite you to Leeds, getting that particular idea because (i) I live in Leeds and could put you up (ii) you are a well known Leeds fan and wrote that amazing song (chapeau et encore mille foix chapeaux).
I think I tweeted you, but as I only tweet when severely provoked that means of communication didn’t last long. I think I forgot my tw*tter password or something. I even tried to facebook massage you or something, using my dog’s secret facebook account (zero friends, zero likes, cos nobody even knows he’s a dog). That didn’t seem to work either. You can see I’d be good at the social media side of promoting your hypothetical gig in Leeds. No but seriously I could that sort of shit well if I had to.
The facebook message which I guess you never got was actually to invite you to Leeds for the HMHB gig before Xmas (and the Leeds match the next day), at a time when the flights to Leeds (from Dub anyway) were about 99pence. December’s HMHB gig itself was the reason I hadn’t really followed up on the idea of getting your band over, cos I’m not sure even Leeds was ready for HAHB and HMHB at around the same time, the Leeds gig being announced just a couple of weeks after my bright idea to invite your gang last May/June.
Anyhow I’m trying to get to Cork, but am temporarily skint and need to find a dog-sitter (Mrs. Exford travels a lot too). Hope to talk there. I’ve been to Fred Zep’s before and I love Cork (my mum was born there but alas no family in Ireland for me). If I don’t make it, I’ll email via the Siteowner and we can arrange something. If I do make it, I might be the one who’s ironed a photo of the great Mick Lynch from ‘Stump’ onto a t-shirt in some sort of half-arsed way.
That other Niall Quinn. Pity you didn’t shoe him. I was in the away end at Highbury in 1985 (?) when he scrambled the first jammy horrible goal of his horrible, horrible anti-football career.
You’re right though the Steve Stone thing is well harsh.
11 January 2017
EXXO
“fois chapeau” instead of “foix chapeaux” then if you’re in the mood.
11 January 2017
EXXO
(as is Jap Stam for NB, especially these days).
11 January 2017
parsfan
Once upon a time between songs:
[i]They call me Jap Stam
It’s not my name[/i]
Can’t remember where, but about 10 years ago.
11 January 2017
Irish Niall
@Exxo Hi Nigel, I got that message and I emailed a reply on Dec 19th to the hotmail address you supplied. Though I’d have loved to make both show and match I’d a drumming gig that weekend (rare I get to say that nowadays) anyway but the offer was much appreciated. Might see you in Cork yet! If not, no worries. If you or anyone else is determined to have the Irish experience of crossing water to hear your favourite songs played live then we’ll likely be doing Limerick before summer and a venue in Dublin are also saying they’ll have us up ‘when a slot arises’. Lucky us.
Dublin would be handy for any loons talking of coming over in terms of options for flights etc, though considerably pricier for accomodation considering it’s scarcely bigger than Leeds. But all the bs that goes with gigging up there put me off it a long time ago. Still we’ll try to go anywhere people want to hear these songs.
11 January 2017
EXXO
@ Niall – must have made one of my famous typoes – don’t usually make them in me own email address but there’s a first time for everything – apologies for that – but looks like I haven’t messed up on the Manc-Cork flights and I’m all booked and looking forward to it. If it’s OK with you I’ll be bringing an actual little video camera (probably all I’ll be bringing as I’m only in Cork 12 hours) and so no worries about memory on anyone’s phone.
12 January 2017
EXXO
By the way Chris if you were to decide with your usual sagacity that all this needs to be syphoned off into its own thread, might I suggest ‘Curating An Exhibition of Songs’ as the subtitle?
12 January 2017
EXXO
In other housekeeping-related news, I notice that the ‘Latest Comments’ page is becoming a bit NSFW (and not all that suitable for the workless either)
The Mexican swingers are the latest to make a bold bid for the #hmhb hashtag (hot on the heels of a US veterans charity and that flipping burger crew). Have the saucy Mexicans got involved as a result of Chris encouraging us drive away the turd burger merchants by posing NSFW #hmhb lyrics? And is there any way of blocking them?
12 January 2017
GOK WAN ACOLYTE
The NSFW picture is hidden behind a “This may be a sensitive image” warning (at least on my computer) -you have to click on it to see the image. Anyone with a knowledge of Spanish have any idea what #hmhb might mean for a Mexican swinger?
12 January 2017
EXXO
Well trust me the tweets themselves are explicit enough to make the pic’s superfluous, telling you exactly what they would like inserting where, but I guess they are only NSFW only if those around you tend to be able to read at least enough Spanish to know that, and no, no idea why #hmhb.
12 January 2017
Irish Niall
@EXXO Hi Nigel, just resent that email to the dogs FB. Feel free to video away. We’d better get rehearsing! I too endorse the ‘Curating an Exhibition of Songs’ concept …it has a subtle implication that faithfulness to the original is at best aspirational and can neither be presumed upon nor guarenteed. We will do our level best though.
@Chris -thank you sir. Hope you enjoy the tunes.
12 January 2017
EXXO
Nice one Niall, Pauli got the message (he says woof, etc) and now that I’ve got your email I’ll use it.
12 January 2017
dr desperate
Discussions completed, Cork booked.
OBITG!
13 January 2017
Irish Niall
Nice one. At this rate I might be phoning Bórd Fáilte (literally ‘Board of Welcomes’ -the Irish Tourism Office) to enquire as to where I can collect my medal.
13 January 2017
EXXO
@Niall Just don’t tell them I’m on a mission to only spend 36 Euro (that I’ve found upstairs hoping Mrs Exxo has forgotten its hers) while I’m there.
13 January 2017
EXXO
I don’t agree with ANY of Paddy Shennan’s choices on this list, and with TLP he’s certainly not out to win over as many new fans to HMHB as perhaps he could have, but it’s a game of opinions at the end of the day.
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/beatles-bunnymen-what-makes-liverpool-12430152
13 January 2017
EXXO
Oh I see – Paddy Shennan only chose the HMHB album on that list – the others chosen by other people.
And I hasten to add that I do regard all the tracks he mentions as utter classics.
13 January 2017
parsfan
Exxo & DD,
I hope you have better luck with your trip to see Niall in Cork than I did in 1999 (The Hitchers). Match abandoned, traveling army given complimentary pint. We had a really good night in the end but didn’t have to go to the wilds of County Cork to do that.
Niall,
Any Hitchers gigs planned, ideally in the summer? We briefly considered a second attempt a couple of years ago but it came to nothing. With a bit more notice it might be do-able.
13 January 2017
Irish Niall
@Parsfan -was that yourself? You’re the stuff of rock’n’roll mythology in these parts. I still can’t recall why the gig was cancelled. The venue Cashmans is long gone alas. They have an arts festival in Kanturk and we (HAHB) were approached about playing it but I’ve heard no more. Now that’s a show that appeals to my sense of the absurd -especially the prospect of dragging a bunch of anglos out there. No Holmfirth or Bilston analogy compares.
The upcoming fixture was nearly in the toilet today as I came off my bike on ice and landed on my wrist but mercifully I’m a crap guitarist anyway so no harm done.
I’d nearly put the house on it* that there’ll be at least one Hitchers gig this year -probably May/June as that seems to work best for everyone, probably Limerick and if you make it -you sir will be celebrated like royalty. No one here believes that someone came from England to see The Hitchers and The Hitchers never showed up.
*qualifications: we’ve one getting married this year, we’ve another with a new baby in the house, we’ve another living in France and in a new job and then there’s me …I’ll work it out somehow.
Just on the upcoming HAHB gig …it is happening. The posters are winging their way to Cork. We’re on.
13 January 2017
Paul f
That best Merseyside album list has some great albums, plus a couple I don’t know which I will “check out”. TLP is a long way from my favourite HMHB album but it sounds like Paddy has made a very personal and sentimental call there. It would be TOB for me. As for others I think The Teardrop Explodes’s Kilimanjaro is the most unforgivable absentee, closely followed by Deaf School’s Second Honeymoon.
14 January 2017
EXXO
I’ve mellowed overnight and think ‘Revolver’ is an OK choice. But ‘Ocean Rain’ just shows lack of feeling for what was great about earlier Bunnymen, especially HUH, and like you I think the lack of Teardrops is criminal. Some very over-rated albums in there, notably The Coral, the classic teenage grammar school band who got over-rated ‘cos they were actually very good musicians but who have nothing interesting to say about anything. If you want a Wirral box-room masterpiece then it’s surely ‘Giant Steps’ by the Boos.
14 January 2017
hendrix-tattoo
TLP album cover for me is the best ever.
“I’ll throw your tyre round a lamp post as a tribute to youth.”
When I was young boy one of the boys in my little gang decided to retrieve the tyre, He did manage to do so, But left three of his fingers on the top of the lamp post.
@Exxo, I also agree there are better Bunnymen albums than OR. Revolver along whith Rubber Soul should have been The Beatles white album.
Can’t believe there are no Elvis Costello album’s in the list especially Armed Forces.
14 January 2017
parsfan
Niall, or from Scotland even.
14 January 2017
hendrix-tattoo
Just found out that I’m not in work after the HAHB gig in Cork on the 10th of Feb.
So a trip to Cork could be on the cards for me also.
14 January 2017
dr desperate
Double-check your calendar first, Tony – HAHB gig is on the 11th.
14 January 2017
hendrix-tattoo
Correction HAHB is the 11th Feb.
Cork here I come, Fly out on the 10th arrive home on the 12th.
So I will see you in Cork John and Nigel.
14 January 2017
dr desperate
Grand. Anyone else?
14 January 2017
Paul f
@exxo – I actually quite like The Coral’s debut. Cosmic Scallies plus Sea Shanties is a great combination. My favourite Beatles album changes monthly but it is often Revolver.
14 January 2017
Paul f
A little bit of a stretch to include Elvis Costello, although I was impressed that he said some nice stuff about Geoff in his book.
14 January 2017
hendrix-tattoo
Armed Forces in my opinion is a great album.
14 January 2017
hendrix-tattoo
This review for Fred Zepp’s from lonely planet sold it for me.
“There’s a hard edge to this dark den of a bar, popular with goths, rockers and anyone who feels uncomfortable leaving the house without a packet of Rizlas”.
@Irish Niall please be careful on your bike.
Here’s a little irish joke to get us in the mood
https://youtu.be/m0Ng9q9LDR0
14 January 2017
Irish Niall
@Parsfan doh! Like the goodyear airship went the hint in the handle
15 January 2017
Bobby svarc
The Half Man Half Biscuit Information Service
16 January 2017
hendrix-tattoo
@Svarco you were right Jeggsy Dodd and tSoHC have just blown me away can’t believe never heard them earlier, Cheers man.
C.D arrived today kindly provided by Geoff.
God bless Ken Hancock.
18 January 2017
BOBBY SVARC
Ah, Good one. 8000 miles away is still very haunting. I shall be at The Robin btw, so see you there.
18 January 2017
hendrix-tattoo
Hubba, Hubba, Hubba.
“He’s the leader of the jolly jet set”
“With his Cliff Richard tape in his car cassette”
Priceless….
See you in Bilston, Geezer.
19 January 2017
Irish Niall
@Hendrix Tattoo. Thanks HT. I’m taking extra care on the bike, wearing scarves to help prevent chills, colds and throat infections etc. One of the knees is still a bit gammy -neither of them have been exactly show ponies for years anyway but that spill didn’t help. But the wrist is fine. We reheased for the first time in an age this evening and it went very well -which is to say we were shite but we’ve three weeks to rectify that.
19 January 2017
alan
Think on when you’re capturing the zeitgeist they’re widening the motorway on today’s Daily Star text forum (Sat Jan 21) page in a text about modern protest movements, if anyone knows how to upload pic
21 January 2017
Chris The Siteowner
Well played, Observer readers.
22 January 2017
dr desperate
The online betting forum OLBG’s Radio Quiet Chatroom (” a place for lonely souls to chat about any old rubbish they like”) has a 1998 interview with NB10, conducted by Dammo Qwirky of that parish:
Too Many Cookies Spoil The Broth
QP: Why is your first album, ‘Back In The DHSS’, rated so memorably?
Nigel: I suppose in 1986 everyone needed a fillip musically – it was the post-Smiths era. I was bemused by all the attention the album received, I didn’t have a clue back then. It was the only light-hearted music at the time, which is a lightweight reply, but there you go.
QP: Is it a millstone being lauded as one of the great songwriters?
Nigel: I don’t mind, I love it. I’m not too aware of it as I don’t mix with people from the industry. The harsh truth is that I’ll visit my mum in Rhyl who’ll ask me when I’m going to get a proper job – she doesn’t realise how popular we can be. She’s got more of an idea than others who’ll say “My uncle Ken will let you play at his pub, you’ll get your ale for nothing and he might slip you a tenner”. That keeps my head on the ground.
QP: How have you managed to remain together for so long?
Nigel: Simply because we’ve turned down things we’ve been unable or not wanted to do. People accuse us of not being ambitious, but all I want to do is play and do what we’re doing. I don’t have musical ambitions, which makes me sound negative, but I’m not.
QP: Your music mirrors realism, what normal people are like…
Nigel: I really don’t have anything to say for myself. I just write and someone, somewhere identifies with it. People latch onto us that would never latch onto any other band. Just a title like ‘Monmore, Hare’s Running’ has been seen in bookmakers. If only two people latch onto a phrase, then that’s enough.
QP: Do you write from a Northern stance?
Nigel: I’ve always maintained that if I lived somewhere like St. Austell or Penzance I would have written the same thing.
QP: Surely the gritty realism is Northern?
Nigel: People think we’re pissed off with the way things are, the way the country is or the way the government is. We’re not. Most of it is a cheap play on words, along the lines of ‘Turned Up, Clocked On, Laid Off’ (Turn on, tune in, drop out). The people I hung around with then were lathe-operators and welders, who got laid off. It’s just phrases I hear.
QP: Have you become more bitter as you’ve grown older?
Nigel: I’m dead happy-go-lucky, I don’t feel bitter. I’m still a boring twat on stage. I just stand there playing and I’m like…
QP: …‘If I knew you were coming I’d’ve slashed my wrists’?
Nigel: I always push lyrics to one side once they’re written. Sometimes I think about ‘This Leaden Pall’ and think “Christ I’m getting a bit involved”. We call that our ‘Unknown Pleasures’ for the Nineties. Next thing we’re back to our stupid songs.
QP: There’s so many references in your songs…
Nigel: I’ve got a sponge-like memory for trivial things. It’s not that I celebrate it, I just chuck something in.
QP: Have you introduced any phrases into the English language?
Nigel: Maybe. I used “Go home, your mum’s got cake”. I don’t know whether it was national until I’d written it. It was one of the great phrases that existed due to peer pressure in a gang.
QP: Have you ever had a problem wanting to be taken seriously?
Nigel: Yeah, I’m a tragi-comic figure in my own flat. I find that dead funny as well – there’s not even the sad face behind the clown’s mask.
QP: You’re no Tony Hancock?
Nigel: I’m too cynical to slag Hancock off. He was a miserable bastard and shouldn’t have pretended otherwise. I’m just very shallow. People think there must be a really deep side to me, but if you come around to my place, you’ll find me washing dishes.
QP: Are you aware of any Half Man Half Biscuit tribute bands?
Nigel: One of our promoters in Redditch told us that he knew of a tribute band. They’d be ten times better than us. They had a funny name, I think it was something with ‘albatross’ in the title, I haven’t heard them. Nowadays many young people haven’t heard of us at all. We did a gig in Reading the other week and the support just thought we were a wacky bunch of Scousers, they didn’t know who we were.
QP: You have a particular affinity with fanzines? (“I dream of occasional fanzine mentions…” – 4AD3DCD)
Nigel: I’ll read them by the dozen if I’m sent them. I love reading them with a cup of tea and a sandwich. I came here tonight wanting one of those booklets in the foyer, and got a funny look. I’ve got a thirst for knowledge.
QP: What’s going through your head at the moment?
Nigel: Loads. We were going to do an EP, but that constitutes three or four songs, which would have cut down what we could have put on the album. As it is we’ll release ‘Four Lads Who Shook The Wirral’ and see what happens next.
25 January 2017
Jodrell Banksy
I’ve always maintained that if I lived somewhere like St. Austell or Penzance I would have written the same thing.
Is Cornwall the north of the south?
25 January 2017
EXXO
Ta for that John. I’ll reply about the song in the other thread.
Solid bit of interviewing which gives a surprising amount of insight given how concise it is. Most questions taken seriously, as tend to be in F2F situations (and often less so in the email interviews NB tends to prefer these days). And most of the answers would probably be the same today.
But it must have been edited down from a somewhat longer chat, resulting in a few times where you wonder if a mis-hearing or slip in transcription has occurred. Did he really say 1986 was “post-Smiths?” It was the absolute height of the Smiths.
And “it was one of the great phrases that existed due to peer pressure in a gang” doesn’t quite make sense – I bet that’s been transcribed wrong – but we get what was meant.
Then there’s the gig in Reading “a few weeks ago”. There was no gig in Reading during the previous 2.5 years. Is it about Redditch again? Would make sense when you look at reviews of the latter on Gez’s site, where Andy tells us that
“the support band, who’s name is Mud (or something) changing into their stage clobber (baggy shorts) before they went on. One member asked Nigel what he did for a living and Nigel told him he was a producer on Dwarf Porn videos and would one day take over the family business. The boy just said “oh, right” in a midlands twang and finished getting changed. The rest of us tried not to laugh. Or maybe Oxford that same spring?
25 January 2017
dr desperate
From Andy Kershaw:
“I’m honoured to be performing my one-man show, The Adventures of Andy Kershaw, tonight (Thursday 26 January), at Cecil Sharp House in Camden Town. Naturally, in the cathedral of English folk music, I will be making a most persuasive case that the finest English folk-rock band since Fairport Convention is the mighty Half Man Half Biscuit.
I’m on stage at 7.30. Tickets are available from the CSH website, or on the door tonight. Hope to see lots of you there.”
26 January 2017
paul f
Does that mean they’ve overtaken the Clash?
26 January 2017
hendrix-tattoo
Did Kershaw also champion The Jam?
26 January 2017
wobbly-jelly
In response to Chris The Site Owners link to the Observer Happy List – I’d missed they’d included my suggestion
“…and wjelly suggests, ‘even better, treat yourself and go see them live’.”
But everyone on here knew that already.
26 January 2017
dr desperate
Link here to a blog by Canadian Alice, who came to the Bilston gig after falling in love with HMHB in Montreal six weeks ago.
She totally gets it.
https://0902friends2017ontheroad.wordpress.com/2017/02/03/the-gig/
4 February 2017
GIpton teenager
Article about restless legs on ‘Trust Me I’m A Doctor’ just now.
15 February 2017
Chris The Siteowner
Is Brian Bilston one of you lot? https://twitter.com/i/moments/833943143288541184
22 February 2017
dr desperate
For anyone who hasn’t already seen it on FB, here’s Neil Tennant’s Thribbesque review of BAITDHSS, from Brian McCloskey’s excellent ‘Like Punk Never Happened – A Smash Hits Archive’; this week celebrating the issue of 25.2.87.
You know what you can do with the magnifying glass.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/51106326@N00/24652239141/in/album-72157664194051355/
26 February 2017
Dave Wiggins
Nige Tassell’s excellent ‘The Bottom Corner’ contains a 5-minute interview with Nigel Blackwell. Headlines are the frontman comparing following Tranmere with John McCarthy “chained to the radiator”, and speculating on just who killed Julia Wallace in Liverpool’s most infamously unsolved pre-war murder. The author also weaves in some clever HMHB lyrical nods throughout the tome.
7 March 2017
dr desperate
****UNIVERSITY CHALLENGE SPOILER ALERT*****
Two HMHB references in a set of bonus questions on hill forts on last night’s semi-final between Emmanuel and Wolfson Colleges, Cambridge. I won’t say which they were in case Exxo has accidentally read this far down.
28 March 2017
JITSU_G
I was lucky enough to get on Danny Bakers Sausage sandwich game on radio 5 this morning. I managed to sneak in a Biscuits reference. Have a listen on iplayer and see if you can spot it. On from just after the 930 news, 32 min in.
Oh go on, here it is – CtSO
13 May 2017
The harbinger of nothing
HMHB live set on Gideon Coe tonight. Usually starts at about 11.30
6 June 2017
The harbinger of nothing
Actually, more like 11.15
6 June 2017
dr desperate
Coe-o also played ‘Ubu @ Eric’s’ from JD Meatyard’s new album ‘Collectivise’ the night before (just after 1 hour 20 here – http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08s3k9n ). I understand CDs will be available at Clitheroe on Thursday, following a launch gig at Fred’s Ale House in Levenshulme tomorrow night.
See how many PU song titles you can spot.
7 June 2017
dr desperate
Clitheroe on Friday, that should be.
7 June 2017
TOASTKID
Gideon Coe show is at http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08t0k8x
Session is at 2hrs 20.
7 June 2017
TOASTKID
Tracks: (A mostly music industry themed collection, from John Peel’s Meltdown Festival in 1998)
A Shropshire Lad
Four Skinny Indie Kids
Bad Review
4AD3DCD
Yipps (My Baby Got The)
Running Order Squabble Fest
7 June 2017
Chris The Siteowner
Different selection from when Mr Coe last pulled out that gig from the archives in 2013. I’ve put what he played on YouTube here. The whole gig as originally broadcast can be found as an audio file on the HMHB Live! site here.
7 June 2017
Bobby svarc
Geoff Davies once said when I enquired about a launch date.. “it’s not a fucking boat”
8 June 2017
GOK WAN ACOLYTE
Pretty certain this wasn’t a deliberate reference to the band, although Paul Gambaccini does have a pretty good knowledge of pop so it may have been, but on Saturday’s Pick of the Pops he introduced a song thus “I love you because you’re like Jim Reeves, and here he is at number 15…”
26 June 2017
dr desperate
Anybody likely to be in a position to video Some Men All Biscuit 2 at Edinburgh in August (see Breaking News banner)?
29 June 2017
parsfan
I imagine I’ll be going. I’ll make no promises other than to enjoy it.
Is it really going to be three hours this time?
30 June 2017
Chris The Siteowner
“I could never trust Jacob Rees-Mogg because he will always back the rich over the poor, scabs over strikers, Wagner over Half Man Half Biscuit.”
Robert McNeil in The Herald
7 July 2017
Ron
Cabinet Minister live on radio 5 wearing a DPAK bought for him by his wife .. at 08:58 mins on iPlayer http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08xy7pq#play
16 July 2017
Ron
And there’s more: 1 min 38 secs in http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08yj01k#play http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/heres-unexpected-reason-tory-damian-10808434
Apologies if this is already familiar
16 July 2017
paul f
I’m guessing that’s the first use of the phrase “sarcasm-punk” to describe any band, never mind Nigel and the boys.
17 July 2017
GOK WAN ACOLYTE
The Guardian has followed up the story with what can only be described as Mail Online headline/sub head (cram as many words as possible for search engines)
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/shortcuts/2017/jul/17/half-minister-half-biscuit-how-a-dukla-prague-shirt-outed-damian-green-as-an-indie-fan
17 July 2017
GOK WAN ACOLYTE
Oh, and the article reignites the debate about whether it was a subbuteo team in DPAK colours or a DP away shirt worn by the other boy. (Sorry CtSO you may need to merge my comments)
17 July 2017
paul f
It was a Subbuteo team – I will brook no debate on this matter. Jack Sharp’s sports shop in Whitechapel, Liverpool, supplied most of my Subbuteo gear.
18 July 2017
OLD BOney
Rather randomly came across this Mumsnet thread about HMHB. It’s a bit old but does purport to show the band partaking in rock groupie type activities – who’d have thought….
https://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/other_subjects/112204-words-to-time-flies-by-when-i-m-a-driver
18 July 2017
Chris The Siteowner
This probably needs a more prominent reference, which I’ll do when I get the chance, but in the meantime, Tommy Mackay, Editir Genrul of the Daily Reckless, writes:
As a fan of your HMHB website, I just wondered if you were aware of a “Scottish version” of the band called Half Bam Half Whisky. They’ve just released an EP here…
Top work, fellas.
21 July 2017
GOK WAN ACOLYTE
Not quite sure if this constitutes being “in the media” since it seems to be blog post on a music website, but worth a read none the less, not only for the mention of our lads but also the Jim Morrison putdown: https://beat.media/the-importance-of-song-lyrics
24 July 2017
Chris The Siteowner
I put a couple of bits on to YouTube from what must now be known as The Damian Green Incident: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WJZKpu5NAM
27 July 2017
parsfan
The SMAB2 show details have changed. It’s now in The Liquid Room (just like a proper Biscuits gig) with new time of 6:35.
– Thanks – CtSO
1 August 2017
dr desperate
The latest “HMHB crossword” is the cryptic from Monday’s Independent (9,616, by Scorpion), which has thematic entries for all the across clues.
Here it is, extracted from their site.
Scorpion is Mike Warburton, who also sets for the Financial Times as Aardvark and the Daily Telegraph as Osmosis. Are you there, Mike?
11 August 2017
Chris The Siteowner
That really is quite something. Well played Scorpion/Mike, and well spotted, Dr D.
12 August 2017
Chris The Siteowner
Today’s New European newspaper has a proper article on Dukla Prague, as extensive as anything I’ve ever read. And there’s a mention of the song for completeness, of course. Well worth tracking down a copy.
http://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/home
24 August 2017
Chris The Siteowner
Peter Ross, of the 2016 Big Issue article fame, has had a second volume of his journalism published, including the HMHB article.
The Passion of Harry Bingo: Further Dispatches From Unreported Scotland is available now via the website of the publishers Sandstone Press and presumably other quality outlets.
29 August 2017
Peter Mcornithologist
Chris perhaps there is avanue for the greatest line
30 August 2017
parsfan
HMAB2 Edinburgh
After last year’s sold out (free entried out?) gig at The Voodoo Rooms, Alexis Dubis went for a larger venue at The Liquid Room (there’s no ‘s’ it’s just The Liquid Room as revealed to St John on the sign).
I wondered beforehand, as SLF were playing there later and their doors due to open less than half way through the show, and it turned out to be in a different room, one of many, despite its singular name. This room was much larger than last year’s and this year’s audience would have fitted comfortably in last year’s room.
Pre-match beers in The Bow Bar. My mate, who declined last year offering “karaoke” as a reason, turned up as did Kenny P, who also reviewed last year’s show. Surprise of the evening was the appearance of Celia & Andy (not of this parish but we’ll known among the travelling army).
I didn’t take notes as I expected Alexis to issue a definitive list (as last year) and for me to be doing this long before now (half pished on train to Gatwick over a week afterwards).
First up was a choral version of Vatican Broadside, harmonies, everything, it was brilliant…and it finished with a more traditional version.
In the intro Alexis asked who didn’t know the band. Only two people forward of me owned up. They left after the next song, which was probably one of the best things done (though I forget just now what it was, lots of high and lows).
Atilla The Stockbroker more than showed up at the last minute this time, it was almost his gig. Four songs, or parts thereof, over a range of styles. First up Chatteris in serious poem style, there was another on a mandola (according to Andy and my memory of what he said) and others.
It was a good laugh, the numbers were a bit disappointing but there was negligible advertising.
I hope Alexis can do it again next year. The lads played there during the festival in 2003 & 2004, maybe a return next year with an afternoon HMAB show as warm up would help boost numbers.
31 August 2017
dr desperate
Excellent, @Pars, thanks very much. I’ll be with Andy among the travelling army at Lord’s next weekend so this may come up in conversation.
31 August 2017
Chris The Siteowner
Interview with NB10 on Coney’s Loft…
(Update – see comment below)
3 September 2017
dr desperate
Goroka?
4 September 2017
GOK WAN ACOLYTE
Bless you!
At least we’ve got our own Birther controversy to keep us amused till the new album – will NB1057(5710?) be forced to produce his birth certificate at a forthcoming gig?
4 September 2017
Chris The Siteowner
UPDATE: just discovered that although only just published, the interview above was done well over a year ago, so read any comments – especially the final one – with that in mind.
4 September 2017
EXXO
Hmm. Given that He drops at least one porkissimo into every interview, I can’t help noting that Champion Spark Plugs didn’t open the factory, which granted was just up the road from the Blackwells, till young sir was in his fifth year.
4 September 2017
D list paul ross
Just about to buy my first bike in 30 years – you guessed it, a Boardman hybrid on the cycle to work scheme. So embarrassed I’m doing Del Boy impressions to get over it.
5 September 2017
EXXO
Let’s all free our inner poseur. I’m saving up for a Birkenhead North End cycling top even though I have no intention of ever wearing any cycling gear when I’m actually on me bike. Might wear it at a gig.
5 September 2017
d List PAUL ROSS
Saltaire Brewery do a nice one but I’m chuffed if I’m spending £40 plus to accentuate the fatness which has led me to getting a bike in the first place.
5 September 2017
dr desperate
Frankly, though Champion Spark Plugs have their own magic (the founder won the 1899 Paris–Roubaix road race and died after being punched by his wife’s married lover) I was more interested in the PNG reference.
5 September 2017
EXXO
In a court of law, I am fairly sure that discrediting one part of the story would be considered a reasonable first step in discrediting the whole thing.
5 September 2017
bobby svarc
Good God, Watch some bugger start knocking em out on Ebay
5 September 2017
Brumbiscuit
http://www.yacf.co.uk caters for all cycling tastes and abilities and offers, from time to time, the opportunity to buy an Owayo-made top in various styles. Many of the topics are HMHB-friendly & cycling can actually easily be avoided. At least one person OTP is over there too.
6 September 2017
GOK WAN ACOLYTE
Wonder if we’ll be able to detect a Townes Van Zandt influence on the new songs? Or will there be a version of Pancho & Lefty in future live shows?
6 September 2017
dr desperate
You may recall he actually played a snippet of P & L at Holmfirth last year – maybe we’ll get the whole thing there in a fortnight’s time.
6 September 2017
gipton teenager
Joke No.881 in The Biggest Ever Tim Vine Joke Book
“There used to be a band called Half Man, Half Biscuit. But they broke up.”
The book was published in 2010. I suspect I’m the only person to get this far.
8 September 2017
Chris The Siteowner
This just in:
“Biscuit Tinnitus” by Half Bam Half Whisky
“Kenny came from East Ayrshire
With one overriding desire
To see Half Man Half Biscuit play
And his dream came true one day…”
25 September 2017
Chris The Siteowner
Hmmm, “Lord Hereford (to give it an abbreviated and obscenity-free title).” Someone should tell the OS.
Read more at: http://www.brighouseecho.co.uk/news/from-hebden-bridge-to-halifax-our-local-landmarks-in-lyrics-1-8789830
7 October 2017
JITSU_G
I’ve put him straight
7 October 2017
Chris The Siteowner
Rather odd mention in Mail Online in a review of the Volkswagen Golf GTE, supposedly by Chris Evans.
(Don’t worry, it’s a screengrab, you won’t have to visit their site)
15 October 2017
EXXO
It’s a historic moment really in that it isn’t a mention of the band, but a linguistic use of the phrase, probably the first. Shame it had to occur so meaninglessly in such a juvenile piece of writing.
I hate to say it but tw*tter would probably be the way to get it in the dictionary. If enough of us start using it, with a definite meaning, in it goes.
15 October 2017
Chris The Siteowner
Arthur Salisbury in The Mancunion spots dogs on the pitch in the Hallmark Security League…
17 October 2017
Paul F
Obligatory mention of Gubba Lookalikes in an article about “Tony (of course)” by the excellent John Nicholson on football 365. http://www.football365.com/news/a-football365-love-letter-to-tony-gubba
27 October 2017
Ian A
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-41749447
Korfball coming to town!,,
28 October 2017
dr desperate
Residents of Loughborough might like to turn up for (not that) Paul Rooney’s contribution to next Wednesday’s ‘Sounds From A Small Town’ at the University.
http://www.arts.lboro.ac.uk/radar/events/event/sounds_from_a_small_town
22 November 2017
Chris The Siteowner
Three Gerry Gows in this article on footy stickers by Ian McCawley: https://www.thesportsman.com/articles/world-cup-2018-celebrating-the-enduring-power-of-panini-stickers
1 December 2017
EXXO
And a Gazza and two Alan Brazils.
He’s a very posh Toffee if he calls it a “foil” not a “shiney” (a type of sticker that was well after my time, of course).
1 December 2017
Glen Quickfall
A play for HMHB on David Shrigley’s show on 6 Music tonight. Problem Chimp.
1 December 2017
Chris The Siteowner
The “lush, self titled debut EP” by multi-instrumentalist Adibanti contains one track which may pique your curiosity. Review here. The EP is on Spotify.
2 December 2017
Chris The Siteowner
Thin, seasonal filler in Metro hung on a song title, but hey, at least it linked to a video.
15 December 2017
EXXO
Follow the click-bait to the cute puppy litters, then to the Siberian Grinch Husky, and that’s me that is, all year long. But especially at Xmas and above all when I think of the liberal interpretation of the word ‘Cynical’ by Mr. B and his admirers.
15 December 2017
EXXO
Just noticed this one – no dogs on the pitch, but such a good article, and also quotes ‘Friday Night’.
22 December 2017
dr desperate
Liz Kershaw played ‘It’s Cliched to be Cynical at Christmas’ on her R6M request show this afternoon. Which was nice.
The crane at the concrete factory down our road is festooned with bright fairy lights again this year.
23 December 2017
D list paul ross
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-42441425 apparently milky drink and sudafed not enough for Mary
25 December 2017
Stuart
I suppose everyone’s seen this, but it’s really not every day that you see a news headline involving the finest band in the country.
30 December 2017
Knackered Man
Stuart – I spotted it also and was putting my comment together when I found your post. Bah – pipped again.
Anyway, here’s the summary from the various Guardian threads for those who wouldn’t be seen near such a pinko liberal rag.
Dr Maureen Tilford got the ball rolling on the 13th December, lamenting the lack of British road songs in the ‘Route 66’ mould. Huh! perish the thought Doc.
This oversight was corrected by Elvis McGonagall (is he one of ours?) on the 18th, pointing out he delights of M-6-Ster, replete with a lyrical snippet. Not to be outdone, Dave Lawlan brings up Botleneck at Capel Curig on the 27th, and in today’s edition Melanie White references 2 Chevrons Apart.
30 December 2017
CHARLES EXFORD
The good doctor’s original letter (and judging by her history in that letters column, she really is a good one) in fact asked about the romanticism of the road names themselves.
I’m not sure how anyone can interpret the HMHB song as ‘advice’, but it does seem that an unexpectedly high proportion of citations of HMHB in the media are in some way mistaken about who in the songs is and isn’t saying what.
30 December 2017
transit full of keith
As if to prove life really is a PBR, the letters page on the 27th mentioning ‘Bottleneck at Capel Curig’ also features someone moaning about the postman dropping elastic bands on her drive.
1 January 2018
dr desperate
If you’re into the whole Facebook thing, my attention has been drawn to a new HMHB page, apparently there for the past month or two. Some of those here are already all over it like a cheap suit; I’ve only just seen it.
https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=the%20half%20man%20half%20biscuit(hmhb)%20appreciation%20society
16 January 2018
hendrix-tattoo
Love the photees of Ron in N.Y. John.
Hope you and Elizabeth had a good un’….
16 January 2018
Chris The Siteowner
If it’s good enough for Wordsworth or Blackwell…
18 January 2018
dr desperate
Nice. Shame she didn’t mention the weekly rates in early September though.
18 January 2018
dr desperate
” ‘Go Long’ is also very funny. Not in a Barron Knights way, but more Half Man Half Biscuit.”
Jonathan Roscoe describing Canadian folkie Scott Cook’s fifth album in ‘Shire Folk’ (not to be confused with the late lamented Manc fanzine ‘Shy Talk’).
18 January 2018
The harbinger of nothing
I’d say that Mozzer (q.v.) also played a part in Grasmere being famous.
18 January 2018
Chris The Siteowner
“…Tranmere Rovers’ second-most famous fan…”
20 January 2018
EXXO
They mostly have their own very distinct demographics don’t they though: Adderley, Blackwell, Dean, Dimbleby, Jackson, Routledge, Ward, Warrior, Welsby, Stubbs, Jackson), for which reason I’m always a touch sceptical when I hear it whispered (at half-time near the kop end of the Johnny King stand) that only a prime-time phone-in vote-out with them all locked in a house baking cakes on ice can ever sort this one out once and for all. I’m fairly sure, however, that one of them has been to about ten times more games than the rest put together.
20 January 2018
EXXO
Talking of demographics, on this week’s 6Music ‘Round Table’, someone called Justin from an outfit called The Vaccines dropped possibly the most inappropriate, ill-informed and downright erroneous HMHB name-check of all time. Here it is.
20 January 2018
transit full of keith
Just noticed that David Gaffney (Manchester-based writer of very short stories) tips a hat to HMHB with the title of one of the stories in his Sawn-Off Tales, ‘Some Call It Loungecore’. (Lots of Fall references too). I really recommend his stuff (Sawn-Off Tales and Aromabingo particularly) – he writes very concise, funny, surreal and dark stories, quite Blackwellian in some ways.
20 January 2018
gipton teenager
Blackwellian or Blackwellesque?
20 January 2018
transit full of keith
Surely nobody on here would be picky enough to argue the difference …?
I’ll go with Blackwellish. My new year’s resolution is to annoy less pedants.
20 January 2018
The harbinger of nothing
I think you mean “to annoy fewer pedants”…
(You tee ’em up, Keith – CtSO)
20 January 2018
The harbinger of nothing
I’d go for Blackwelly.
20 January 2018
GIpton teenager
Anyone for Blackwelllike?
21 January 2018
alan
It’s a Sad Day in the Park – there is no Golden Biscuit award. (600) (549) (548)
I was greeted with awkward silence
Chris The Site Owner had lied to me
He had lied to me on his post
21 January 2018
Phyllis Triggs
I love Blackwelly but it has more limited use than the ‘esque’ or ‘ellian’ forms. No doubt some grammar wanker could tell us why. And I reckon Harbinger Of Nothing deserves the Order Of The Black Welly for that “to annoy fewer pedants” comment – superb!
21 January 2018
GIpton teenager
I thought it was an amazing example of bad auto correct and should have read ‘Les Pedants’, the notoriously fastidious French cyclist.
21 January 2018
transit full of keith
As a grammar wanker, I just want to place on record that I was aware of the comic potential of “annoy less pedants” when I wrote it. Also, I stole it from that Richard Osman off Pointless.
Les Pedants were an art-school trio from Toulouse, did a Peel session in 1987 I think.
21 January 2018
Phyllis Triggs
Nice one, TFOK. It completely passed me by – but then, I’m not much of a pedant. Well played!
21 January 2018
dr desperate
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-7CULzCgN9JA/Vryu0boZXLI/AAAAAAAAdYM/Vh7-SHIIhx8/s1600/Cartoon%2Bof%2Bthe%2BDay-Pedants%2527%2BRevolt.jpg
22 January 2018
transit full of keith
Nice cartoon Dr.D. To bring this wandering thread back to Biscuit matters, the best ‘pedant’ joke still has to be the cover of “Those Bones” by the Correct Speech Gospel Quartet …
22 January 2018
alan
“to boldly annoy less pedants” by splitting the infinitive as well
22 January 2018
Cygnus
@ Dr D: My old history teacher would often trot out the joke about Which Tyler and the Pedants Revolt, we used to smile dutifully but I never understood it until years later. To digress, we had history on a Friday afternoon, he would always start by discussing the Saturday footie fixtures (he was a Coventry fan), most of the class followed the dark side from Witton but there were three of us Baggies and my best mate was Leicester mad. After that he would then set us a text to read through, sit back at his desk and puff away at his pipe! We knew if we were very quiet for 10 minutes or so he would probably close his eyes and have forty winks then we could continue the footie chat amongst ourselves as long as we weren’t too loud. Those were indeed the days my friend… Ofsted inspectors (and smoking bans) were many, many years away.
22 January 2018
EXXO
I love the super-inclusive way they’ve reproduced the 15th century illustration the wrong way round (if you magnify you can see John Ball & Watt Tyler have their names written back to front), to make sure art history pedants can get stuck in too. And it’s a good job I’m not enough of a history pedant to point out that we aren’t seeing two opposing groups in the pic, but in fact a sermon given to all the revolting Kentish by one of their own.
22 January 2018
Carrie anne
Nice for Hair Like Brian May Blues to get an airing on Gideon Coe’s show this evening, given the maudlin atmosphere in these parts. RIP MES
25 January 2018
Alice van der meer
Particularly as it was paired with my other favourite band, the Bonzos.
Did you know Henry Rollins is a Bonzos fan? He’s hard…
27 January 2018
BOBBY SVARC
I’ve just been talking to Sir Geoff and he’s informed me that the band are currently in the studio producing some new material. Don’t know what the new album is going to be called or when it hits the shelves but I did suggest that ‘2016 and all that’ is would be acceptable…….. Total silence. Anyhow, it looks like the long wait is finally over. Also, more gigs are to be announced soon. That’s all folks!
31 January 2018
Mr. abelazar woozle
Just come across this on the BBC website https://www.bbc.co.uk/music/articles/08bd3359-cc88-4930-bbe8-26cde41a1c27 – ” Stunning places that have inspired classic songs” , and Lord Hereford’s Knob has managed to slip in there….
31 January 2018
Chris The Siteowner
Someone’s claiming to be working on a “list of songs inspired by local government finance”. “At number two, Half Man Half Biscuit’s Trumpton Riots, a tale of the consequences of spending cuts at the Trumptonshire Fire Brigade.”
1 February 2018
TRANSIT FULL OF KEITH
A new album in the offing is excellent news … More song-based than bongo-laced, I trust.
1 February 2018
EXXO
I notice that Lammo’s show is coming from Parr St. Studios today, where our Lads’ last LP was laid down. Would have been interesting if they’d been in an adjacent studio in some sort of legendary coincidence type scenario.
2 February 2018
davidc
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b09ply4y – 1 minute in, as part of the intro.
(As this’ll probably scroll off iPlayer eventually, if it’s gone by the time you read this, it’s a broadcaster quoting “slipper/biro” without any credit. Grr. – CtSO)
6 February 2018
EXXO
I knew I wouldn’t be the only one in recent years, as clever female folkies with the word ‘kit’ in their band names gradually came to dominate the airwaves, to have thought of sending RadMac a Tea Time Time with a First Aid Kit song, a This is the Kit song (inevitably Emmylou), and then ‘DPAK’. Well someone had – in fact it was Robert in Ankara – and (as more or less predicted by the dynamic duo when they introduced the item yesterday) a listener got it within the first song, immediately texting in to predict what the next two acts would be. Stuart was concerned that the fact that the link was between two band names and one track title might irk some purists, who might ‘baulk’, until Mark pointed out that well phonetically our lads’ band name does contain /kit/, which had never even occurred to me.
In other news, Wallasey’s wonderful Martin Carr, first man in Wallasey to release a single about the bench outside the newsagent’s at the end of my road (in Wallasey), was also interviewed on the same programme about his solo stuff, sounding very sensitive and lovely both in conversation and song.
6 February 2018
EXXO
Apologies for posting that simultaneously with the previous unrelated item, creating more thread disconnectedness.
What can I say about Simon Evans that won’t make me appear too tribalistic? Well nothing that wasn’t better said by Stewart Lee, writing a few years back:
Will anyone make up the right-wing stand-up comedian numbers? Since I started in the late 1980s, there have always been stand-ups who appear to be right-wing, but usually are upper-middle-class liberals who, realising that they can’t help their accents, have chosen to take on the role of a kind of out-of-touch, paternalistic Tory “posh boy”. The slit-eyed Simon Evans, whom you may have seen on a big TV stand-up showcase, is the funniest and the most committed of these, hating football fans, working-class women who dress like prostitutes and anyone who has more than two children. Particularly good over short distances, Evans nevertheless inhabits his stage persona so completely, convincingly and hilariously that I assume it must on some level overlap with his beliefs. Whether he is a real Tory or a pretend one, Radio 4 could do worse than make the unflinching Evans the official voice of the comedy opposition.
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2013/04/where-are-all-right-wing-stand-ups
Lee basically helped make the case for winning the robbing get Tory boy this whole series.
6 February 2018
alan
No idea if the lads were asked to spare a tune for Revolutionary Spirit: The Sound Of Liverpool 1976-1988 but Jegsy Dodd has.
Either way glad Nigel/Neil turned down the coin as it’s one bad compilation. Most of it is as revolutionary as Fiddlers Dram, third rate copyists of the bilge that made the charts 80-83, the type of stuff even Peel played just once with a pithy remark.
I could have put my head in a bucket full of porridge
And moaned about the hospital parking scheme
I would have saved 34 pounds
That I just splashed out on your compilation album
13 February 2018
CHARLES EXFORD
Sorry to hear of the massive let-down. If they did ask, I’d like to think Mr. B gave a geographically pedantic reply. “Don’t be mistaken, don’t be misled…”
13 February 2018
Paul F
That song was the highlight of my one and only trip to Prenton Park.
13 February 2018
FLINTLOCK
There is s Biscuit link though, assuming it’s the same Attempted Moustache.
14 February 2018
dr desperate
The Manc one is better, with 26 more tracks including Crispy Ambulance.
14 February 2018
alan
yesterday’s Big Job: Set alarm for 9.50am to buy Liverpool tickets
today’s Big Job: Buy Liverpool tickets
Avoiding proper work since 1986
14 February 2018
Paul F
On those compilations, for those of us who enjoy music of that era from both ends of the East Lancs, you could do worse than the Paul Morley North by North West compilation.
14 February 2018
warden hodges
Best £23 I’ll spend today. Yeah.
14 February 2018
Cream cheese and chives
Money well spent.
Unless you end up on that Viagogo site where they are £43 each.
14 February 2018
warden hodges
Nah, makes a change. Being a native Merseysider, nice walk up London Rd/Hotham St and seeing the man behind the counter with the metal tray device thing.
14 February 2018
CHARLES EXFORD
Hmm. Could be an excuse to pop into Ma Egerton’s on me way to the match on Saturday.
By the way, HMHB are confirmed as a “major international act” and a case where “local and international combine” by the blurb on the Academy website.
14 February 2018
CHARLES EXFORD
Soz, that was in fact from a random blurb on another site
https://www.list.co.uk/place/54858-o2-academy-liverpool/
14 February 2018
Gok wan acolyte
A double reference here, not only do the band get included in this list but so does Irish Niall, albeit not in his tribute act capacity. There’s clearly a fan working on the BBC website as this is the second recent mention on one of these lists…
17 February 2018
Alice van der meer
Ta for confirming that, I spotted it on Arsebook, and wondered.
18 February 2018
Chris The Siteowner
I realised we didn’t have Andrew Harrison’s 2009 Word magazine piece on the site, although it was mentioned, so I’ve scanned it and added the link here. I had to buy it (again) off eBay, mind, after having thrown my copy out long ago.
12 March 2018
PeeJaygee
I noted the chorus of ” Everything’s A.O.R. ” being quoted on BBC Radio 6 music this afternoon . The Radcliffe and Maconie show was featuring lyrics that were popular with listeners of the show . Funnily enough I’d been whistling the aforementioned tune barely an hour earlier at work .
16 March 2018
Chris The Siteowner
The new album’s cover is wangling its way into culture even before it’s released: http://www.eadt.co.uk/ea-life/martin-newell-essex-the-wladyslaw-mirecki-waj-art-exhibition-1-5438584
19 March 2018
dr desperate
So are the song titles.
https://www.abctales.com/collection/no-one-cares-about-your-creative-hub
19 March 2018
transit full of keith
Quite like those stories … Wonder if “Terrence Oblong” has ever frequented this site? (Looks like it – CtSO)
The “Emergency Locksmith” one is a little bit David Gaffney.
The “Every Time A Bell Rings” one borrows a plot from “Sponsoring the Moshpits” …another bright idea from Gabriel.
20 March 2018
EXXO
Following his links as one does, I’m somewhat relieved to deduce (with reference to another set of short stories he wrote in 2014 all based on the theme of ‘offal’) that he didn’t have early access to the song titles of that album, and therefore has no inside info, is not a band member in disguise etc.
Doesn’t give away too much biographical info in his tales; certainly there’s no evidence that his pseudonym is inspired by the beautiful Oblong of Dreams. He has more probably named himself after a small coffee table.
20 March 2018
jodrell banksy
Re: the Martin Newell article (above): seeing the Cleaner from Venus mention the Biccies makes two normally-segregated bits of plutonium in my brain smash together over a lovely, doomed Pacific atoll.
20 March 2018
Chris The Siteowner
Of course. Shoulda mentioned that. My segregated brain always forgets that EADT Martin Newell and Cleaner From Venus Martin Newell are one and the same.
20 March 2018
gipton teenager
Whilst trawling through the BBC radio 4 i-player (the best thing since bread?), I came across ‘The Right Time’ which featured a song by Ronnie & the Rex (probably Neil Innes) containing the lines
“Stannah Stannah stairlift
She’s shooting up to the stars”
first broadcast 18th April 2002.
Does this count, or is there a statute of limitations?
22 March 2018
Alice van der meer
Goodness, Martin Newell is what my Mum always turns to first in the newspaper – somehow I doubt she’ll make the connection.
Thank you for posting that link, Chris, I now know far more aboout him than I ever intended to, and I may have fallen in love with Wivenhoe Bells combining, as it does, my love for my natal Essex (County Champions, no less) and my hobby of bellringing. Especially as the recording at the end is real church bells, not studio tubular jobbies. Intriguingly, they may not be Wivenhoes – it might be two recordings stitched together as some of it is definitely ringing on six bells, and then in the middle it briefly seems to be eight bells – Wivenhoe has six.
OK, I’ll get me coat now.
22 March 2018
Chris The Siteowner
In an exclusive extract from his new book, Going for a Song: A Chronicle of the UK Record Shop, Garth Cartwright tells the story of the Cartel and Probe Records…
25 March 2018
EXXO
Thanks Chris. The author was on 6 with Cerys Matthews this morning, a long interview about the book, so I guessed he would have covered Probe. Said he’d researched for years, but maybe that was when Geoff was ill, ‘cos that’s all very second-hand stuff and I notice that The Quietus editor has (very professionally, I must say) put in a correction at the end that at least goes some way to dispelling the confused non-sequitur in that third-to-last sentence.
25 March 2018
dr desperate
This is more The Media in HMHB, but I can’t think where else to put it.
Someone on FB has just posted a picture of an original cassette of ‘Back In The DHSS’ (Probe 4C), side 1 of which says “All tracks mixed by Dorothy Sleightholme”.
She was the presenter of YTV’s ‘Farmhouse Kitchen’, the programme on which Nigel once said he hoped the band would first appear.
26 March 2018
EXXO
Just noticed that your front-page “HMHB on the Chain” feature doesn’t have a comments section – in fact sudden sense of déjà dit – have I noticed the same thing and commented on it before?
But anyway I’ve just noticed that while I was in Ireland last week, not only did I get ‘Asparagus Next Left’ played on Lamacq on Friday (by having asked for it when I was listening on Tuesday, when it was clearly the best suggestion for that day’s ‘National Anthem’ but just a little too late) … but also by being away from my wireless and so not mithering RadMac to get HMHB on the Chain, which under normal circumstances I tend to do without any hint of success several times a week, this meant that they played ‘Squabblefest’ at about 1.24 pm on Wednesday. This was ‘cos after Crispy Ambulance were chosen for the Chain at about 1.20, they said it that the HMHB track would have made an excellent follow-up .. except it’s already been on The Chain. So they played it anyway ‘cos it’s just 1:21 long.
After which a fella texted or twittered to say he was a massive HMHB fan but had never previously realised Crispy Ambulance were a real band.
Anyway still no HMHB on the actual Chain for nearly two years!
28 March 2018
GIpton teenager
The boys just referenced on BBC4 Arena program about Dylan.
31 March 2018
GIpton teenager
Sorry, that was just a cheap clip show, didn’t realise as I only caught the end of the program.
31 March 2018
Cynical uncle charlie
Adrian Chiles interviewing Bob Wilson about Lev Yashin yesterday (from 1.38:55). Great bit where Chiles asks Wilson if he’s ever been celebrated in song…
“The only time I’ve had a song was in my broadcasting career. It wasn’t terribly complementary”
31 March 2018
transit full of keith
Thanks for posting that. As well as the Biscuit reference, the song about Yashin was by the brilliant Soviet songwriter Vladimir Vysotsky, last person I’d expect to hear on 5 Live. Not his only football song either: this one (in which a defender ponders the merits of following a centre forward home after the match and giving him a kicking) is great: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrI9HFYGHr0
2 April 2018
CHARLES EXFORD
The other Wilson in that clip (Jonathan, a respected football writer) says he couldn’t find the 1930’s melon-saving keeper film on youtube; I can’t find anything in English or even with subtitles about Vysotsky either, although a Danish chap apparently did a film about him in about 1983, after his death. I suspect someone’s trying to cash in by keeping it off youtube, but if you know of anything Keith let me know. I can’t even find a translation of those football-related songs, though I found poor literal translations of many others – fascinating subject matter.
2 April 2018
transit full of keith
^ (On a closer look, it seems to be a tricky right winger from his own team he’s considering doing violence to. The narrator, who can only play on the left, is watching him score from the subs bench).
2 April 2018
transit full of keith
@Exxo, I tried to translate some of his songs a few years ago, but found them pretty impossible to render in English – you can find quite a few bad translations online. (Maybe I’ll have another go sometime with the football ones). Vysotsky was great though. Come to think of it, he had a song about bad losers in the World Chess Championship as well. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Vysotsky (Should this migrate to the Other Bands thread?)
2 April 2018
dr desperate
On the other hand, there is a band from Guisborough called The New Lev Yashin.
(I say ‘is’; this album was released in 2003, and their profile is on Myspace.)
https://www.allmusic.com/album/new-lev-yashin-mw0000719104
4 April 2018
GOK WAN ACOLYTE
Not really a new mention, but Word #52 is up on the “Whole Hogg” blog, which is trying (slowly) to digitise every edition of the late and much lamented Word magazine.
There’s a quick recap of a Sinead O’Connor interview which also features a comment from Nigel https://wholehoggblog.wordpress.com/2018/04/10/word-52/
10 April 2018
Transit Full Of Keith
There’s a mention of Geoff Davies, the Probe shop and Pete Burns at the till in this Quietus article, and much else of interest about Merseyside music in the 80s (but no mention of HMHB). Perhaps because the article is partly a puff for a Cherry Red box set which also omits them (although it includes Attempted Moustache). http://thequietus.com/articles/24366-liverpool-eric-s-history-revolutionary-spirit-pete-wylie-jayne-casey-gayna-rose-madder-joe-mckechnie-will-sergeant-interview
11 April 2018
Chris The Siteowner
Tangential reference in an article about emojis, of all things. (Fixed)
14 April 2018
dr desperate
Tate Liverpool has an exhibition coming up later this month called ‘Colour Chart: Reinventing Colour 1950 to Today’, for which merch includes a tea-towel featuring 66 Liverpool-related colour samples (Yellow Submarine, Red Rum, Cilla Black, etc).
The beige one second from the left on the next-to-bottom row is Half Man Half Biscuit.
https://shop.tate.org.uk/the-colours-of-liverpool-tea-towel/21408.html
The exhibition starts on 29.5.18, but unfortunately finishes on 13.9.18, a fortnight before the Liverpool gig. Shame, too, that Flux of Pink Indians were from Bishop’s Stortford.
15 May 2018
GOK WAN ACOLYTE
“you’re so beige, I bet you think this tea towel’s for someone else”
15 May 2018
Chris The Siteowner
Anyone know who’s behind the “Half Man Half Biscuit Official” YouTube channel, which looks like it’s being updated to include the new album? The channel launched last summer and contains audio-only videos for just about everything the band has done. With custom images for each album and song, it’s far too sophisticated to be anything to do with Probe Plus. Every track has well-organised links to the major online retailers (and Probe Plus in the most recent case). It’s very well done, presumably by some organisation which is doing this on behalf of lots of bands, I imagine with a business model of collecting affiliate commission on sales, topped up by some advertising revenue.
If it’s approved by the band/label, I’d be happy to link to it from this site. Other people are already uploading tracks to YouTube – I shan’t be linking to those though.
19 May 2018
Carlosfandangowidewheels
Proper Records are behind it. No probs.
(Thanks! – CtSO)
19 May 2018
The dynamic entrance
I’m watching a wedding, AND they played us some Tallis. Shoop Shoop shong would blow my mind now.
19 May 2018
Dr Desperate
There was also an Amen injection (Etta James’, not The Winstons’ version).
19 May 2018
Chris The Siteowner
I’m hijacking this thread as the general HMHB watercooler thread to see if anyone’s got any information about the missing exact release dates of the first four albums. All we have here is the same as Gez’s site and Mick’s Probe Plus history site, namely:
• Back In The DHSS (PROBE4), “1985”
• Back Again in the DHSS (PROBE8), “1987”
• ACD (PROBE8CD), “1988”
• McIntyre, Treadmore and Davitt (PROBE30), “1991”
We must be able to to better than this. I’ve always taken the 1985 release date of the first album as correct, but it didn’t start its chart run until February 1986. Was it really released a month or more before charting? BAITDHSS had its week in the charts one year later, February 1987, so it’s likely it was released in Jan/Feb of that year.
Anyone got any leads?
24 May 2018
BOBBY SVARC
As I said to Peter Ross in that interview that the first I heard of them was April 1986 when Annie Nightingale played DPAK on her Sunday night show. It was announced on R1 by Annie that the song was the B side of “The Trumpton Riots”, I scribbled down on the dash of my van, went straight over to Nervous Records in Hinckley and asked Gordon to get it for me, he then told me that there was an LP already out because he’d sold some copies. That is as much as I know.
24 May 2018
Flintlock
I’m pretty sure the first album was already out when I first heard them, which would have been the 9.12.85 repeat of the first Peel session.
I bought BAITDHSS when it came out, February 1987 sounds right. Many more people would have bought in release week than the first one, so it would be more likely to chart immediately.
McIntyre, Treadmore & Davitt would have been (late?) October, I think.
24 May 2018
EXXO
You could buy Back in the DHSS before the band’s first Peel session – the exact October 1985 date – can’t remember the day – which I put up on this site in the 25th anniversary thread was absolutely correct the 5th springs to mind, but it was definitely whatever day I said then. I remember researching it well in 2010, but that would have been about ten crashed or smashed crap computers ago.
I recently re-read the Jan or Feb 1987 NME review of ‘Back Again’, which, true to form, will be a couple of weeks after it was available to buy.
24 May 2018
EXXO
if in doubt just google “Mayor of Cirencester + congratulate.” I’m fairly certain he will have got the day right.
24 May 2018
EXXO
Looking at that date now – 7th October 1985 – I’m sure that Geoff confirmed it to me after I found it in 1 or 2 other places.
25 May 2018
ROGER GREEN POSTER ON THE WALL
That October 1985 date can’t be far out. I first had the privilege of seeing HMHB perform live at The Leadmill in Sheffield on 2 February 1986. I was there with my mate, Mark, to celebrate his 22nd birthday. We have just exchanged texts where we agreed that we both knew a load of the songs that they played that night, implying that the album was already out. They started off their set with Busy Little Market Town and finished with The Trail Of The Lonesome Pine. I knew then that this was the band for me.
25 May 2018
ROGER GREEN POSTER ON THE WALL
Sorry can’t do better than this with Back Again In The DHSS. I have very vague memories of a review of a HMHB release, tied in with a review of a Bogshed release (they used to do it like that in the old days). That may be what Exxo refers to. I remember praise for HMHB who had called it a day for the time being, combined with a slating for Bogshed for carrying on as they were. Unjustified. They were a great band. The review might have been for their album Brutal.
25 May 2018
EXXO
The date is 100% definite. 7/10/85. I wouldn’t have suggested that thread to Chris in 2010 if it wasn’t.
And yes, that’s the same review I re-read in the NME in the British Library a few months ago. I’ll dig out my notes later.
25 May 2018
Chris The Siteowner
Thanks all. One down, three to go.
25 May 2018
Paul f
Simon Mayo’s HMHB references continue to be Chatteris-centric. Tonight’s quiz contestant was from Chatteris, and was regaled by Mayo reciting the song’s first verse to his (and Jo Whiley’s) utter bemusement. He suggested they might play it tomorrow before rowing back, presumably when he remembered the prick barriers.
29 May 2018
Dr Desperate
Marc Riley just played ‘The Announcement on R6M. No post-play announcement.
4 June 2018
Dawlishian
Amy Lame played See That My Bike’s Kept Clean yesterday, apparently celebrating World Bike Day:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0b4zk2j
4 June 2018
Bobby Svarc
Fat Latch Radio have just played What Made Colombia Famous at 7.04am…..world’s gone mad!
5 June 2018
S
I scanned in an old interview with Nigel for your delectation (hope it’s readable). From around 2003, it contains what may be the first mention of ‘Trad Arr Tune’.
(I also note that in the week that Snow Patrol kept the band off no 1 – well, by 16 places – in the Record Store chart, this comes from issue of the magazine with Snow Patrol on the cover, just before they got proper famous).
https://www.isthismusic.com/half-man-half-biscuit-3
(Thanks! That’s a new one to me – CtSO)
5 June 2018
paul f
It was ringing a few bells, so I tracked it back to where I might have first seen it. It’s been on Gez’s site for years (just a copy and paste of the text rather than a scan).
https://cobweb.businesscollaborator.com/hmhb/news/2004.htm
5 June 2018
Dr Desperate
Plenty of interest in that itm? interview, @S, including Nigel’s now-thwarted wishes to request ‘The Laughing Policeman’ from Lou Reed and not to have hung around with Ian Curtis.
5 June 2018
S
Oh Cheers @Paul F, I’d completely forgotten I’d sent Gez the text to that at the time, I’ve long since lost my own files. Considerably easier to read!
8 June 2018
John Anderson
The current Private Eye’s entertaining page on the retirement of Daily Mail editor Paul Dacre contains the following observation:
“Dacre was always particularly angry after returning from one of his holidays; as he strode towards his office every executive he passed had to endure a blizzard of profanities for their uselessness durng his absence. As revealed in Eye 1334, these became known as drive-by shoutings.”
13 June 2018
Chris The Siteowner
Excellent. Attending the Hammersmith gig a couple of years back in the company of a national sports journalist, I was amazed as she introduced me at the bar to an almost endless succession of national newspaper journalists. It seems the band has quite the following on the Street of Shame.
13 June 2018
Transit full of keith
A shame none have them have reviewed the album…
Meanwhile, an interview with the Viz cartoonist behind ‘Real Ale Twats’ reveals it was partly inspired by CAMRA Man: https://boakandbailey.com/2018/06/davey-jones-the-man-behind-the-real-ale-twats
13 June 2018