He never actually played for Charlton (see also Ricky Villa, David Hamilton and Jason Scotland)
24 January 2014
nigel
Or Rod Hull
24 January 2014
nigel
Alan Sunderland?
ok I’m bored now
24 January 2014
Matt
Alan Brazil?
24 January 2014
robvarmint
I am ashamed of myself for forgetting Alan Sunderland – I spent Saturday afternoons in the 70’s watching him from the South Bank!!!
24 January 2014
EXXO
Remember when we were younger and the reporters & commentators at European & international games would muse about the locals stopping them on the streets and going “eh! Eengleesh! Bobby Charlton! OK? Bobby Charlton! Very good!” and all that…
Well it did actually happen to me as recently as 2001 in Barcelona. A taxi driver who had all the sexy Catalan football he could muster on his doorstep but only wanted to talk about Bobby Charlton and Real Madrid, the daft old sod.
While we’re dropping travel tales, me & Mrs. Exford once got drafted into a Brazilian Sunday league side that was 2 players short. On the opposition were players whose names included Everton (vaguely relevant to where the thread has drifted i think you’ll agree), Hilton, Euclid and (this is the best) Arnold.
24 January 2014
paul f
That reminds me of a section of Peter Chapman’s book The Goalkeeper’s History of Britain (highly recommended). He was working for ITV at the 86 World Cup and there was a planned England v Brazil media friendly. Unsurprisingly the Brazilians were short of a keeper, and Chapman had been on Orient’s books as a young custodian. So they roped him in. He was feeling a bit disappointed that Pele hadn’t turned up and that he didn’t recognise anybody when the captain said “The team talk will be in Portuguese so why don’t you go and warm up with Mr Rivelino?”
24 January 2014
Dr Desperate
Interesting picture, that. He’s wearing the red and white socks sported by England from 1957 to 63, the hair suggests early 60s, but the blue shirt doesn’t fit and has no badge for him to kiss. Could it be from a warm-up for the Chile World Cup?
24 January 2014
EXXO
Nope, warming up at White Hart Lane on 9th October 1968. The old “fitness test” even, possibly.
United’s third kit in the sixties, and sometimes their 2nd kit, was all blue (as in the 1968 EC final), and they often warmed up in dark blue before donning the proper kit for the match.
Wasn’t gonna say till somebody asked like 😉
24 January 2014
EXXO
Incidentally Charlton had an Adidas boot deal from 1964 (and 20 out of the 22 finalists in 1966 and all that wore them).
24 January 2014
EXXO
The more I think about the classic ‘cigarette card’ pose of the picture, a pose that had endured 50 years but perhaps one of the last of its type, the more I think this is a posed pre-game publicity shot, probably for Adidas (they din’t yet make clothing, hence everything else is unbranded) with a better camera than you ever used to get then for match action shots.
24 January 2014
Dave Wiggins
*gruff coughing voice* ticket-tout-scandal.
24 January 2014
BrumBiscuit
The more I read about Bobby, the more I like Jack.
24 January 2014
Dr Desperate
The more I read about Bobby Charlton’s football kit, the more I think I ought to get out.
He had his own signature boots in 1964 which had three white stripes but no Adidas logo (the ‘Popular’ is pictured above, and sold from a warehouse in Wellingborough for 52/- post free). The famous picture of him holding the World Cup aloft at Wembley shows everybody but him wearing Adidas. The picture shows him wearing England socks at an English ground with a crowd in attendance, but his shirt has no badge, so it might be a promotional shot taken before a match, except the bloke behind him is wearing the same strip. It is a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma.
I heard from a friend of someone who lives near to Sir Bobby that the local village school was trying to raise funds and it was suggested that the local celebrity could do something to help (donate a shirt for auction or similar). Enquiries were made formally only for the great man to haughtily respond that business arrangements would have to be made through his agent, thus implying that he would only do something for the school for a fee. I lost a lotta respect for him after hearing that.
26 January 2014
Proud salopian
My nan worked at the Nesscliff army camp at the time that young Bobby was doing his National Service there. She remembered him as being “a shy lad who never said boo to a goose.” Fast forward a dozen years when he was at his peak and her two grandsons were taking an interest in the beautiful game. Nan wrote to Mr Charlton requesting autographs for me and my cousin she never received a reply and never forgave him. She really shouldn’t have been surprised…
27 January 2014
Taylo
I used to work with Gordon Charlton, one of the two other brothers. Gordon was very much Team Jack, whilst George was Team Bobby.
It was kind of an unwritten rule in work that you never talked about his brothers (cos he got fed up of it) although one time at a Christmas Do (PBR) at the Norbreck Castle, someone brought up the story of the Bobby Charlton ‘box’ that used to sit on reception at OT for him to carry to and from his car so that he didn’t have to sign autographs…..to which Gordon (Team Jack remember) replied “If you had seen what he saw at Munich…you would be a miserable sod too”.
27 January 2014
Taylo
whilst we are at it, you are right with White Hart Lane Exxo but wrong game.
you can answer me this though i’m sure, what’s the sketch with Liverpool’s 76 Uefa Cup Final kit against Bruge? Did they have a one off deal with Adidas?
27 January 2014
VAUGHAN
Saw him score one of the best England goals ever, against Sweden, Wembley 1968.
27 January 2014
EXXO
Thanks Taylo, kinell, 7 years out (I was misled by crap on the bloody internet tsk). No wonder I couldn’t identify the blonde player in the background – now I realise it must be Ron Flowers of Wolves in that FA XI.
And as for your other question, compare an image of the match with one of the celebrations and you’ll get your answer.
In fact no, just check out what happens about 3 seconds after the final whistle on this video (good old David Coleman on the commentary of course).
Good spot on Ron Flowers – he used to own a sports shop in Wolverhampton, I was bought my first pair of decent boots there.
27 January 2014
Dr Desperate
My thanks too, Taylo, now I can sleep at night again. I suppose you might say it was a Chile warm-up (see what I did there) as the FA’s side comprised most of the England national team except, of course, those who played for Spurs. That might explain the socks too.
Been reading some interesting stuff about Bobby and his relationship with brother Jack.In short it would appear there is a mutual loathing which has lasted for decades. Commenced when Bobby married Norma and moved down to Cheshire. There has always been a personality clash between Norma and the rest of the Charlton family ,with her being regarded as somewhat aloof.Jacks criticism is centred around his belief that Bobby forgot his roots and ignored his family. Looks like it is ongoing as Jack celebrated his 80th birthday with no sign or mention of Bobby.
30 April 2016
Mr.X
Scored two goals on his League debut aptly enough against Charlton Athletic! United won 4-2 in October 1956 at Old Trafford.
Played for Bangor City in the Anglo-Italian Cup in 1978. Coincidentally, he scored twice on his last Red Devils appearance in the same competition five years earlier.
Owned a Travel Agents before becoming a director at United. He ran football schools in the 1980’s attended by DRJ Beckham.
Now has the southern part of the ground named after him at Old Trafford.
I had my picture with him on Christmas Week in 2008 in Deansgate, Manchester on my lunch break from MUTV while I was sporting a Mohican, after dressing up as Mr.T for fancy dress circuit training.
1 May 2016
JUST MARK
@PETER MCORNITHOLOGIST – An interesting read, although at the end in my head I added ‘…Bobby hates gravel, and Bobby hates shale, it goes right through him’.
1 May 2016
Hendrix-tat
ON THIS DAY, In 1956: Sir Bobby Charlton made his Manchester United debut. Scoring 2 goals against Charlton Athletic.
6 October 2016
hendrix-tattoo
How poignant today as been with light snow falling in Manchester. On the 60th anniversary of the Munich air disaster.
6 February 2018
cream cheese and chives
Came into my barber’s about six years ago. Three grown men all stopped what they were doing to gather around him and offer their services. Fair enough, a proper legend but it was never going to take three men to sort his barnet.
robvarmint
He never actually played for Charlton (see also Ricky Villa, David Hamilton and Jason Scotland)
24 January 2014
nigel
Or Rod Hull
24 January 2014
nigel
Alan Sunderland?
ok I’m bored now
24 January 2014
Matt
Alan Brazil?
24 January 2014
robvarmint
I am ashamed of myself for forgetting Alan Sunderland – I spent Saturday afternoons in the 70’s watching him from the South Bank!!!
24 January 2014
EXXO
Remember when we were younger and the reporters & commentators at European & international games would muse about the locals stopping them on the streets and going “eh! Eengleesh! Bobby Charlton! OK? Bobby Charlton! Very good!” and all that…
Well it did actually happen to me as recently as 2001 in Barcelona. A taxi driver who had all the sexy Catalan football he could muster on his doorstep but only wanted to talk about Bobby Charlton and Real Madrid, the daft old sod.
While we’re dropping travel tales, me & Mrs. Exford once got drafted into a Brazilian Sunday league side that was 2 players short. On the opposition were players whose names included Everton (vaguely relevant to where the thread has drifted i think you’ll agree), Hilton, Euclid and (this is the best) Arnold.
24 January 2014
paul f
That reminds me of a section of Peter Chapman’s book The Goalkeeper’s History of Britain (highly recommended). He was working for ITV at the 86 World Cup and there was a planned England v Brazil media friendly. Unsurprisingly the Brazilians were short of a keeper, and Chapman had been on Orient’s books as a young custodian. So they roped him in. He was feeling a bit disappointed that Pele hadn’t turned up and that he didn’t recognise anybody when the captain said “The team talk will be in Portuguese so why don’t you go and warm up with Mr Rivelino?”
24 January 2014
Dr Desperate
Interesting picture, that. He’s wearing the red and white socks sported by England from 1957 to 63, the hair suggests early 60s, but the blue shirt doesn’t fit and has no badge for him to kiss. Could it be from a warm-up for the Chile World Cup?
24 January 2014
EXXO
Nope, warming up at White Hart Lane on 9th October 1968. The old “fitness test” even, possibly.
United’s third kit in the sixties, and sometimes their 2nd kit, was all blue (as in the 1968 EC final), and they often warmed up in dark blue before donning the proper kit for the match.
Wasn’t gonna say till somebody asked like 😉
24 January 2014
EXXO
Incidentally Charlton had an Adidas boot deal from 1964 (and 20 out of the 22 finalists in 1966 and all that wore them).
24 January 2014
EXXO
The more I think about the classic ‘cigarette card’ pose of the picture, a pose that had endured 50 years but perhaps one of the last of its type, the more I think this is a posed pre-game publicity shot, probably for Adidas (they din’t yet make clothing, hence everything else is unbranded) with a better camera than you ever used to get then for match action shots.
24 January 2014
Dave Wiggins
*gruff coughing voice* ticket-tout-scandal.
24 January 2014
BrumBiscuit
The more I read about Bobby, the more I like Jack.
24 January 2014
Dr Desperate
The more I read about Bobby Charlton’s football kit, the more I think I ought to get out.
He had his own signature boots in 1964 which had three white stripes but no Adidas logo (the ‘Popular’ is pictured above, and sold from a warehouse in Wellingborough for 52/- post free).
The famous picture of him holding the World Cup aloft at Wembley shows everybody but him wearing Adidas.
The picture shows him wearing England socks at an English ground with a crowd in attendance, but his shirt has no badge, so it might be a promotional shot taken before a match, except the bloke behind him is wearing the same strip.
It is a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma.
Here’s a picture of his short-lived and ill-advised move to a Mohican hairstyle.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4xaUi7cQkNo/TUgOlwzUVVI/AAAAAAAAGUU/llGTLDoZmrU/s1600/charlton.jpg
25 January 2014
EXXO
Spitting image of Jesse from Eastfield in that one.
I’d like to think that Tommy Smith, Norman Hunter or Ron Harris were somehow involved in something illegal in the rest of the picture…
Failing that, a swarthy Portuguese centre-half perhaps…
25 January 2014
BrumBiscuit
Indeed, an uncanny resemblence, though with slightly fewer strands than Jessi can still manage.
25 January 2014
Dr Desperate
Nice Adidas/combover reference in this image.
26 January 2014
Graeme
I heard from a friend of someone who lives near to Sir Bobby that the local village school was trying to raise funds and it was suggested that the local celebrity could do something to help (donate a shirt for auction or similar). Enquiries were made formally only for the great man to haughtily respond that business arrangements would have to be made through his agent, thus implying that he would only do something for the school for a fee. I lost a lotta respect for him after hearing that.
26 January 2014
Proud salopian
My nan worked at the Nesscliff army camp at the time that young Bobby was doing his National Service there. She remembered him as being “a shy lad who never said boo to a goose.”
Fast forward a dozen years when he was at his peak and her two grandsons were taking an interest in the beautiful game. Nan wrote to Mr Charlton requesting autographs for me and my cousin she never received a reply and never forgave him. She really shouldn’t have been surprised…
27 January 2014
Taylo
I used to work with Gordon Charlton, one of the two other brothers. Gordon was very much Team Jack, whilst George was Team Bobby.
It was kind of an unwritten rule in work that you never talked about his brothers (cos he got fed up of it) although one time at a Christmas Do (PBR) at the Norbreck Castle, someone brought up the story of the Bobby Charlton ‘box’ that used to sit on reception at OT for him to carry to and from his car so that he didn’t have to sign autographs…..to which Gordon (Team Jack remember) replied “If you had seen what he saw at Munich…you would be a miserable sod too”.
27 January 2014
Taylo
whilst we are at it, you are right with White Hart Lane Exxo but wrong game.
It’s actually the 1961/62 Charity Shield between Spurs and a football league XI…see link here http://www.unitedkits.com/articles/miscellaneous.html
you can answer me this though i’m sure, what’s the sketch with Liverpool’s 76 Uefa Cup Final kit against Bruge? Did they have a one off deal with Adidas?
27 January 2014
VAUGHAN
Saw him score one of the best England goals ever, against Sweden, Wembley 1968.
27 January 2014
EXXO
Thanks Taylo, kinell, 7 years out (I was misled by crap on the bloody internet tsk). No wonder I couldn’t identify the blonde player in the background – now I realise it must be Ron Flowers of Wolves in that FA XI.
And as for your other question, compare an image of the match with one of the celebrations and you’ll get your answer.
In fact no, just check out what happens about 3 seconds after the final whistle on this video (good old David Coleman on the commentary of course).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vk4XMGUJQJU
27 January 2014
robvarmint
Good spot on Ron Flowers – he used to own a sports shop in Wolverhampton, I was bought my first pair of decent boots there.
27 January 2014
Dr Desperate
My thanks too, Taylo, now I can sleep at night again.
I suppose you might say it was a Chile warm-up (see what I did there) as the FA’s side comprised most of the England national team except, of course, those who played for Spurs. That might explain the socks too.
27 January 2014
Good morning,ma’am i.c.t.r.y.g
United review set to honour sir bobby.http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Club-News/2016/Mar/Manchester-United-to-release-souvenir-edition-of-United-Review-in-honour-of-Sir-Bobby-Charlton.aspx
30 March 2016
Hendrix TATtoo
bobby, bobby bobby charlton
na-na,na-na na-na nah
http://www.skysports.com/share/10229122
3 April 2016
Peter mcornithologist
Been reading some interesting stuff about Bobby and his relationship with brother Jack.In short it would appear there is a mutual loathing which has lasted for decades. Commenced when Bobby married Norma and moved down to Cheshire. There has always been a personality clash between Norma and the rest of the Charlton family ,with her being regarded as somewhat aloof.Jacks criticism is centred around his belief that Bobby forgot his roots and ignored his family. Looks like it is ongoing as Jack celebrated his 80th birthday with no sign or mention of Bobby.
30 April 2016
Mr.X
Scored two goals on his League debut aptly enough against Charlton Athletic! United won 4-2 in October 1956 at Old Trafford.
Played for Bangor City in the Anglo-Italian Cup in 1978. Coincidentally, he scored twice on his last Red Devils appearance in the same competition five years earlier.
Owned a Travel Agents before becoming a director at United. He ran football schools in the 1980’s attended by DRJ Beckham.
Now has the southern part of the ground named after him at Old Trafford.
I had my picture with him on Christmas Week in 2008 in Deansgate, Manchester on my lunch break from MUTV while I was sporting a Mohican, after dressing up as Mr.T for fancy dress circuit training.
1 May 2016
JUST MARK
@PETER MCORNITHOLOGIST – An interesting read, although at the end in my head I added ‘…Bobby hates gravel, and Bobby hates shale, it goes right through him’.
1 May 2016
Hendrix-tat
ON THIS DAY, In 1956: Sir Bobby Charlton made his Manchester United debut.
Scoring 2 goals against Charlton Athletic.
6 October 2016
hendrix-tattoo
How poignant today as been with light snow falling in Manchester. On the 60th anniversary of the Munich air disaster.
6 February 2018
cream cheese and chives
Came into my barber’s about six years ago. Three grown men all stopped what they were doing to gather around him and offer their services. Fair enough, a proper legend but it was never going to take three men to sort his barnet.
23 January 2019