There’s a short street in Scarborough called “Paradise”, maybe because it’s near the church? Inevitably, it gave rise to a whole load of pick-up lines in the town, all variants on “I can take you to Paradise”.
18 November 2022
dr desperate
In the 12th Century a ‘Paradise’ (or ‘parvis’) was an enclosed monastic garden, as created by French Cistercian monks below St. Mary’s Church, Scarborough. If you walk from The Cavern to Probe Records you can pass along Paradise St (having been down Whitechapel way).
19 November 2022
Brumbiscuit
‘Paradicsom’, the Hungarian word for tomato, also means paradise.
On a totally unrelated note; ‘sajt’ is the Hungarian word for cheese and is pronouced ‘shite’.
19 November 2022
EXXO
Methinks you’re being a bit naive here about how Paradise Streets in ports got their name.
19 November 2022
Cream CHEESE AND chives
Paradise Street car park in Liverpool was home to the strongest stench of urine I have ever encountered. The stairwells were like open sewers.
19 November 2022
professor Abelazar Woozle
The Scarborough one is a steep climb up from the harbour, so maybe not for that particular case. Whitby has a Grape Lane right by the harbour though…
19 November 2022
Pirx The Purist
@Exxo.
Similarly the various thoroughfares called ‘Love Street’ (like the one in Chester, for example).
People were a lot more relaxed about these things in ages past. There were streets in many a town which were called ‘Gropec*nt Lane’, and the advent of Puritanism meant that many of them had their names changed to Grape Lane. I suspect the one in Whitby, being by the harbour, would have been one of those.
19 November 2022
dr desperate
@CC&C Paradise St in Liverpool actually was a sewer, having originally been known as Shoreditch (from the Saxon ‘Soersditch’ or ‘Sewer Ditch’). When Thomas Steers, constructor of the city’s first dock, built houses there in 1733 he insisted it be renamed, probably after Paradise St in Rotherhithe where both his wives were from, his children were baptised, and he had worked on the Howland Dock.
20 November 2022
dr desperate
(It’s entirely possible, of course, that Rotherhithe’s Paradise St hadn’t always been completely innocent, the name deriving from a 1631 dwelling-house named ‘Paradise’, 2 minutes’ stagger from the Thames.)
20 November 2022
dr desperate
Okay, here we are living in Paradise, but that’s probably much too much time spent down at the dockside, thinking about the old days of Liverpool and Rotherhithe.
20 November 2022
TRANSIT FULL OF keith
Paradise Lost, a terrible nightclub in Watford in the late 1980s, situated if I recall rightly over Bejams. Paradise Wall, a classic Hard Severe on Stanage which involves handjamming twin cracks. We all have our own ideas of Paradise I guess.
20 November 2022
eXXO
It was named as a piece of marketing then Dr. D just like it’s marketing now. Germany’s largest chain of brothels, the biggest brothel to catch French sex tourists as they cross the Catalan border, and countless other brothels worldwide, still bear this very obvious name.
20 November 2022
Paul f
At university I had a ground floor room that looked out into a very narrow lane which I later discovered had spent part of its history as Gropec*nt Lane.
20 November 2022
dr desperate
Virginia Woolf (her again) lived on Paradise Rd in Richmond. She named her publishing house Hogarth Press after the building.
Paradise Circus, Birmingham city centre. If by paradise one means traffic-choked, concrete-dominated 1960s town planning.
21 November 2022
Parsfan
Can be seen by the dashboard light.
21 November 2022
dr desperate
OK, name six more Biscuit-referenced singers or bands with song titles containing the word ‘Paradise’ (not including HMHB).
22 November 2022
Parsfan
Without the internet I’ve only been able to come up with one so far. I had that wrong to begin with as it was the album title I remembered.
I’ve ruled out a few but not enough to leave only five.
22 November 2022
dr desperate
I didn’t say without the internet.
22 November 2022
EXXO
Took me 13 guesses to get my first one.
22 November 2022
EXXO
2 more for my second.
22 November 2022
EXXO
And the next one came first guess. Now I’m on a hat-trick so will really have to think carefully about the next guess.
22 November 2022
EXXO
BBBBOOOM! What a BALL!! Hat-trick hero.
22 November 2022
EXXO
[my students are doing a practice test if you’re wondering]
22 November 2022
EXXO
And that’s four in my last five guesses. Five in nineteen guesses overall.
22 November 2022
Parsfan
Dr D, no but where’s the challenge in that? I’m sure we all know how to look things up on the internet.
Exxo, it’s like I was doing a completely different quiz from you.
I think I’ll retire on 1/6.
22 November 2022
EXXO
Ha, yes, I do tend to make things a different quiz … like Pointless, where to me the quiz is just guessing how many people said each answer, or Mastermind where the challenge is to prove how unfair it is, by showing how some specialist topics you can get most answers from scanning one Wikipedia page and others hardly any. Yeah, the Doc’s challenge just instinctively led me to want to see how many guesses to get the 6, and the beauty of it is that I could guess, then google that artist +Paradise and it will be there in the first results or you’re wrong. A wrong guess doesn’t give away any of the other answers, whereas if you just google “songs with paradise in the title” then like you say there’s no fun.
22 November 2022
EXXO
Apart from Paul’s Meatloaf one, it took me 21 guesses in total to get 6 more, although got all those 6 in my last 9 guesses.That in itself might be a clue if you think about the possible process.
23 November 2022
dr desperate
Exxcellent! Perhaps give it a few days for others to have a go, then post your 6 Paradises, @Exxo. I have to say, my viewing of Pointless is similar to yours, sometimes made more interesting with a side bet on how many of the Knobheads will begin their self-description with “So…” My Mastermind game is to see how many of the contestants can beat me in the general knowledge round; similarly for the teams on UC and OC (awarding myself 10 points for all correct answers in the former).
23 November 2022
Parsfan
This seems to have gone by the wayside, so here’s my one answer.
Styx with “Rockin’ the Paradise”. I initially thought “Paradise Theatre” but that was the album.
4 December 2022
EXXO
I didn’t know any, so I did random “guess-then-google” and I think Styx was the first one I got, then Sinita the second, but at that point I thought I should just go through all the most likely ‘Irk’ artists, and got the first two right with Michael Ball and Chris de Burgh, then the two others followed soon after with Hall & Oates & John Coltrane. There will doubtless be others.
4 December 2022
EXXO
Sorry I wrote John Coltrane while thinking Miles Davis.
4 December 2022
dr desperate
In that case there have been at least 10 HMHB Paradises, not including PL(YTRW): Meat Loaf (P. by the Dashboard Light) Styx (Rockin’ The P.) ELO (Moment in P.) Chris de Burgh (Here is Your P.) Hall & Oates (Running from P.) Elvis (P. Hawaiian Style) Miles Davis, Sinitta, Chris de Burgh, Sade and Frank Ifield (P.)
professor Abelazar Woozle
There’s a short street in Scarborough called “Paradise”, maybe because it’s near the church? Inevitably, it gave rise to a whole load of pick-up lines in the town, all variants on “I can take you to Paradise”.
18 November 2022
dr desperate
In the 12th Century a ‘Paradise’ (or ‘parvis’) was an enclosed monastic garden, as created by French Cistercian monks below St. Mary’s Church, Scarborough.
If you walk from The Cavern to Probe Records you can pass along Paradise St (having been down Whitechapel way).
19 November 2022
Brumbiscuit
‘Paradicsom’, the Hungarian word for tomato, also means paradise.
On a totally unrelated note; ‘sajt’ is the Hungarian word for cheese and is pronouced ‘shite’.
19 November 2022
EXXO
Methinks you’re being a bit naive here about how Paradise Streets in ports got their name.
19 November 2022
Cream CHEESE AND chives
Paradise Street car park in Liverpool was home to the strongest stench of urine I have ever encountered. The stairwells were like open sewers.
19 November 2022
professor Abelazar Woozle
The Scarborough one is a steep climb up from the harbour, so maybe not for that particular case. Whitby has a Grape Lane right by the harbour though…
19 November 2022
Pirx The Purist
@Exxo.
Similarly the various thoroughfares called ‘Love Street’ (like the one in Chester, for example).
People were a lot more relaxed about these things in ages past. There were streets in many a town which were called ‘Gropec*nt Lane’, and the advent of Puritanism meant that many of them had their names changed to Grape Lane. I suspect the one in Whitby, being by the harbour, would have been one of those.
19 November 2022
dr desperate
@CC&C
Paradise St in Liverpool actually was a sewer, having originally been known as Shoreditch (from the Saxon ‘Soersditch’ or ‘Sewer Ditch’). When Thomas Steers, constructor of the city’s first dock, built houses there in 1733 he insisted it be renamed, probably after Paradise St in Rotherhithe where both his wives were from, his children were baptised, and he had worked on the Howland Dock.
20 November 2022
dr desperate
(It’s entirely possible, of course, that Rotherhithe’s Paradise St hadn’t always been completely innocent, the name deriving from a 1631 dwelling-house named ‘Paradise’, 2 minutes’ stagger from the Thames.)
20 November 2022
dr desperate
Okay, here we are living in Paradise, but that’s probably much too much time spent down at the dockside, thinking about the old days of Liverpool and Rotherhithe.
20 November 2022
TRANSIT FULL OF keith
Paradise Lost, a terrible nightclub in Watford in the late 1980s, situated if I recall rightly over Bejams. Paradise Wall, a classic Hard Severe on Stanage which involves handjamming twin cracks. We all have our own ideas of Paradise I guess.
20 November 2022
eXXO
It was named as a piece of marketing then Dr. D just like it’s marketing now. Germany’s largest chain of brothels, the biggest brothel to catch French sex tourists as they cross the Catalan border, and countless other brothels worldwide, still bear this very obvious name.
20 November 2022
Paul f
At university I had a ground floor room that looked out into a very narrow lane which I later discovered had spent part of its history as Gropec*nt Lane.
20 November 2022
dr desperate
Virginia Woolf (her again) lived on Paradise Rd in Richmond. She named her publishing house Hogarth Press after the building.
21 November 2022
Brumbiscuit
https://maps.app.goo.gl/rgbguzDL5uzyK5UdA
Paradise Circus, Birmingham city centre. If by paradise one means traffic-choked, concrete-dominated 1960s town planning.
21 November 2022
Parsfan
Can be seen by the dashboard light.
21 November 2022
dr desperate
OK, name six more Biscuit-referenced singers or bands with song titles containing the word ‘Paradise’ (not including HMHB).
22 November 2022
Parsfan
Without the internet I’ve only been able to come up with one so far. I had that wrong to begin with as it was the album title I remembered.
I’ve ruled out a few but not enough to leave only five.
22 November 2022
dr desperate
I didn’t say without the internet.
22 November 2022
EXXO
Took me 13 guesses to get my first one.
22 November 2022
EXXO
2 more for my second.
22 November 2022
EXXO
And the next one came first guess. Now I’m on a hat-trick so will really have to think carefully about the next guess.
22 November 2022
EXXO
BBBBOOOM! What a BALL!! Hat-trick hero.
22 November 2022
EXXO
[my students are doing a practice test if you’re wondering]
22 November 2022
EXXO
And that’s four in my last five guesses. Five in nineteen guesses overall.
22 November 2022
Parsfan
Dr D, no but where’s the challenge in that? I’m sure we all know how to look things up on the internet.
Exxo, it’s like I was doing a completely different quiz from you.
I think I’ll retire on 1/6.
22 November 2022
EXXO
Ha, yes, I do tend to make things a different quiz … like Pointless, where to me the quiz is just guessing how many people said each answer, or Mastermind where the challenge is to prove how unfair it is, by showing how some specialist topics you can get most answers from scanning one Wikipedia page and others hardly any. Yeah, the Doc’s challenge just instinctively led me to want to see how many guesses to get the 6, and the beauty of it is that I could guess, then google that artist +Paradise and it will be there in the first results or you’re wrong. A wrong guess doesn’t give away any of the other answers, whereas if you just google “songs with paradise in the title” then like you say there’s no fun.
22 November 2022
EXXO
Apart from Paul’s Meatloaf one, it took me 21 guesses in total to get 6 more, although got all those 6 in my last 9 guesses.That in itself might be a clue if you think about the possible process.
23 November 2022
dr desperate
Exxcellent!
Perhaps give it a few days for others to have a go, then post your 6 Paradises, @Exxo.
I have to say, my viewing of Pointless is similar to yours, sometimes made more interesting with a side bet on how many of the Knobheads will begin their self-description with “So…”
My Mastermind game is to see how many of the contestants can beat me in the general knowledge round; similarly for the teams on UC and OC (awarding myself 10 points for all correct answers in the former).
23 November 2022
Parsfan
This seems to have gone by the wayside, so here’s my one answer.
Styx with “Rockin’ the Paradise”. I initially thought “Paradise Theatre” but that was the album.
4 December 2022
EXXO
I didn’t know any, so I did random “guess-then-google” and I think Styx was the first one I got, then Sinita the second, but at that point I thought I should just go through all the most likely ‘Irk’ artists, and got the first two right with Michael Ball and Chris de Burgh, then the two others followed soon after with Hall & Oates & John Coltrane. There will doubtless be others.
4 December 2022
EXXO
Sorry I wrote John Coltrane while thinking Miles Davis.
4 December 2022
dr desperate
In that case there have been at least 10 HMHB Paradises, not including PL(YTRW):
Meat Loaf (P. by the Dashboard Light)
Styx (Rockin’ The P.)
ELO (Moment in P.)
Chris de Burgh (Here is Your P.)
Hall & Oates (Running from P.)
Elvis (P. Hawaiian Style)
Miles Davis, Sinitta, Chris de Burgh, Sade and Frank Ifield (P.)
5 December 2022